ALL The Churches Shall Know...JEZEBEL

[RdJ]

A real woman inspired by a demon.

https://www.bijbelseplaatsen.nl/onderwerpen/494

I-zebel= where is Bel, Baal?

Jezebel sometimes used her husband's seal.

She also appears to have had her own seal.

Now we come across two interesting things in studying this seal of Jezebel. First of all, it becomes clear how enormous the influence of Egyptian religion was in Ahab's court.

There was pure paganism.
All life at the court was imbued with Egyptian magical thinking.

Archeology confirms what we already know from the Bible

And secondly, it has become clear to us through the seal of Jezebel that Jezebel felt much higher than an ordinary princess; she considered herself a goddess, like Anat, the wife of Baal, and she possessed a life-giving power just as much as the Egyptian Isis.

No wonder she provoked the wrath of the prophet Elijah and the wrath of God!

The name Jezebel is a quote from the Baal myth and means “Where is Baal? The name Jezebel was therefore ideally suited for someone like the daughter of the Phoenician king Ethbaal.

For thus she was identified with the goddess Anat and Anat was the beloved of Baal!!

Compare Isis and Osiris
And Anat was a Canaanite parallel of the Egyptian goddess Isis-Hathor!.

In the Ugaritic Baal ritual the queen represented Anat

She was tasked with reviving her beloved husband Baal.

In the same way, at his death the pharaoh was identified with Osiris and it was Isis who had to bring him back to life with the help of her sister.

Both of these goddesses are often depicted as two cobras

Jezebel wanted to characterize herself as the life-giving force behind the throne. So she had divine and certainly semi-divine aspirations. That was not unusual or strange. In an inscription a queen calls herself the wife of the god Bel (Baal). According to Ezekiel 28: 2 and 9, the king of Tire considered himself a god. So we can say that this seal is a powerful testimony that she wanted to be worshiped as a goddess and that it was precisely this desire that aroused the wrath of God!!

 

 

Ezekiel 28: first it talks about a man (I think the antichrist) and then about the power behind the man, the fallen cherub satan.

 

https://www.bijbelseplaatsen.nl/onderwerpen/334

On the seal the name Jezebel is spelled as follows: YZBL.

At the top you see a crouching lion with the face of a woman and part of the crown of Isis/Hathor.

Isis is the wife of Osiris.

The body of the sphinx is a lioness. Very fitting for a queen.

Edited March 9, 2024 by RdJ

[Ray12614]

Sin is sin period. We need to shun it, and avoid even the appearance of evil in our lives. I believe that we can do that without assigning spirits to various sins in peoples' lives including our own. We must focus on the behavior and confront it when needed. Sure, we can know that there are indeed evil spirits that influence believers enticing them to sin, and at times demand them to leave (cast them out), however, focusing on them more than the Holy Spirit is wrong in my opinion.

My old church pastor picked up on this 'wind of doctrine', and then applied it to those who disagreed with him on minor issues that were non-doctrinal in nature. He would preach from the pulpit that those who disagreed with his leadership had various spirits of Jezebel, Korah, and others, and did so in an way that was screaming at our congregation almost in a fit of rage. Sure, I agree that leadership is needed, and not everybody has a say in what is done at an assembly, BUT . . . this teaching fragmented our congregation, and many fell away from church believing that they were somehow under the influence of named spirits. It actually got to the point of playing 'demon demon, who has a demon' type of preaching, which was SO off balance and unfair to our congregation.

So, my point is; If you do adhere to this type of teaching (and it does have a very small truth) you should also ask How should this be applied to my local church? Is it something that we maybe should be aware of, or, do we start looking for demons in our brothers and sisters who may differ on small leadership issues? 

I have seen the results of this type of teaching, and I can tell you first hand; Assigning evil spirits to believers is not a road you want to travel down because it is destructive to the Body. Instead focus on living holy and righteous lives by the power of the Holy Spirit, and apply those scriptures instead of looking for demons every time people miss the mark and sin.

Respectfully . . . Ray . . . 

[RdJ]

15 minutes ago, Ray12614 said:

Sin is sin period. We need to shun it, and avoid even the appearance of evil in our lives. I believe that we can do that without assigning spirits to various sins in peoples' lives including our own. We must focus on the behavior and confront it when needed. Sure, we can know that there are indeed evil spirits that influence believers enticing them to sin, and at times demand them to leave (cast them out), however, focusing on them more than the Holy Spirit is wrong in my opinion.

My old church pastor picked up on this 'wind of doctrine', and then applied it to those who disagreed with him on minor issues that were non-doctrinal in nature. He would preach from the pulpit that those who disagreed with his leadership had various spirits of Jezebel, Korah, and others, and did so in an way that was screaming at our congregation almost in a fit of rage. Sure, I agree that leadership is needed, and not everybody has a say in what is done at an assembly, BUT . . . this teaching fragmented our congregation, and many fell away from church believing that they were somehow under the influence of named spirits. It actually got to the point of playing 'demon demon, who has a demon' type of preaching, which was SO off balance and unfair to our congregation.

So, my point is; If you do adhere to this type of teaching (and it does have a very small truth) you should also ask How should this be applied to my local church? Is it something that we maybe should be aware of, or, do we start looking for demons in our brothers and sisters who may differ on small leadership issues? 

I have seen the results of this type of teaching, and I can tell you first hand; Assigning evil spirits to believers is not a road you want to travel down because it is destructive to the Body. Instead focus on living holy and righteous lives by the power of the Holy Spirit, and apply those scriptures instead of looking for demons every time people miss the mark and sin.

Respectfully . . . Ray . . . 

David Wilkerson preached about it. I thought that was really good.

Sounds like that pastor was the one who was controlling.

[Mr. M]

On 3/9/2024 at 7:19 AM, Ray12614 said:

Sin is sin period. We need to shun it, and avoid even the appearance of evil in our lives. I believe that we can do that without assigning spirits to various sins in peoples' lives including our own. We must focus on the behavior and confront it when needed. Sure, we can know that there are indeed evil spirits that influence believers enticing them to sin, and at times demand them to leave (cast them out), however, focusing on them more than the Holy Spirit is wrong in my opinion.

My old church pastor picked up on this 'wind of doctrine', and then applied it to those who disagreed with him on minor issues that were non-doctrinal in nature. He would preach from the pulpit that those who disagreed with his leadership had various spirits of Jezebel, Korah, and others, and did so in an way that was screaming at our congregation almost in a fit of rage. Sure, I agree that leadership is needed, and not everybody has a say in what is done at an assembly, BUT . . . this teaching fragmented our congregation, and many fell away from church believing that they were somehow under the influence of named spirits. It actually got to the point of playing 'demon demon, who has a demon' type of preaching, which was SO off balance and unfair to our congregation.

So, my point is; If you do adhere to this type of teaching (and it does have a very small truth) you should also ask How should this be applied to my local church? Is it something that we maybe should be aware of, or, do we start looking for demons in our brothers and sisters who may differ on small leadership issues? 

I have seen the results of this type of teaching, and I can tell you first hand; Assigning evil spirits to believers is not a road you want to travel down because it is destructive to the Body. Instead focus on living holy and righteous lives by the power of the Holy Spirit, and apply those scriptures instead of looking for demons every time people miss the mark and sin.

Respectfully . . . Ray . . . 

You make some good cautionary points.

The main point is not to assign demons to sin which is an error,

but to ensure that leadership is ordained of the Lord.

Jezebel in today's parlance was an influencer. 

20 Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols.

Not simply assigning demons to sin, assigning demonic influence to leadership.

Consider this teaching from Peter:

1 Peter 4:15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, 

or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.

So we see busybody mentioned with murderers, thieves and other

evildoers! Why? Are they not playing God in others lives?

Being an influencer. This can easily become demonic.

Edited March 14, 2024 by Mr. M

[Marathoner]

On 9/5/2023 at 1:18 PM, TheBlade said:

Hey my brother. I disagree as many others do yet many others do agree about "The Jezebel spirit"

He did say all Churches shall know I am..... That being said there is no scripture for "Jezebel Spirit". We know OT there was a woman "Jezebel" then we know NT Jezebel  " that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess," then how God will kill her children. Seems a real woman to me.  Always hard for me to get "well what Christ was really saying was she was a evil spirit". Again there is nothing in the word of God saying "Jezebel is spirit". I know what they look at what the woman did and then "hey Satan w0uld not that make a great evil spirit?"  

If we have been around this awhile as I have "Jezebel" many years ago was used against women in the Church as to control them. Then seems that so called "spirit" has grown huge now.. now its not only "in" Churches but Schools, States, even Washington DC!" and now men. Best would it not be to say "I believe Jezebel is a spirit and here's why"?

Agreed, my friend. "Jezebel" from the book of Revelation specifically refers to a woman who called herself a prophetess; nowhere do we find mention of a Jezebel spirit in the scriptures. 

What's the most important lesson to be learned? Consider what this so-called prophetess was doing: she was teaching others to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols, the latter of which was common during the time when the book of Revelation was written. This directly relates to Acts 15:

"Since we have heard that some of our number to whom we gave no instruction have confused you by their teaching, upsetting your souls, it seemed good to us, having become of one mind, to select men to send to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore, we have sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will also report the same things by word of mouth. For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these essentials: that you abstain from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from acts of sexual immorality; if you keep yourselves free from such things, you will do well. Farewell.” (Acts 15: 24-29 NASB)

No coincidence. Abstaining from sexual immorality and refusing to eat things sacrificed to idols was the guidance given by the Holy Spirit. Therefore, the issue here isn't some spirit but rather, sexual immorality and things sacrificed to idols. The latter is unheard of in western cultures. 

[Ray12614]

5 hours ago, RdJ said:

David Wilkerson preached about it. I thought that was really good.

Sounds like that pastor was the one who was controlling.

The teaching is not bad IF you take a long and hard look at HOW it applies to you and those around you.

[RdJ]

2 hours ago, Ray12614 said:

The teaching is not bad IF you take a long and hard look at HOW it applies to you and those around you.

What David Wilkerson preached was just in general the false teaching in church that remarriage without a Biblical reason is fine, sex before marriage is fine and so on. There are so many churches now where they preach that even homosexuality is fine. She teaches my servants to fornicate.

 

Here's a good one from him too:

http://www.tscpulpitseries.org/english/1980s/ts880118.html

Edited March 9, 2024 by RdJ

[Mr. M]

21 hours ago, Marathoner said:

No coincidence. Abstaining from sexual immorality and refusing to eat things sacrificed to idols was the guidance given by the Holy Spirit. Therefore, the issue here isn't some spirit but rather, sexual immorality and things sacrificed to idols. The latter is unheard of in western cultures. 

First, Greek is a most influential of Western thought.

Secondly, the means of guiding people into making sacrifices is rampant 

in Western Society and much more sophisticated now than then. 

It is most certainly the work of the spirit of the Age and the prince of this Age.

I will give you but one simple example, for there are multitudes.

I can take a $40 sweatshirt, print a logo/image on it, and sell it for $99.

Have I not induced someone to sacrifice $59 to their idol?

 

Edited March 10, 2024 by Mr. M

[Mr. M]

21 hours ago, Marathoner said:

No coincidence. Abstaining from sexual immorality and refusing to eat things sacrificed to idols was the guidance given by the Holy Spirit. Therefore, the issue here isn't some spirit but rather, sexual immorality and things sacrificed to idols. The latter is unheard of in western cultures. 

To be more in line with the verse, consider eating something sacrificed to an idol.

As far back as the 80's when I got into Spirulina, we have seen one super food after

another marketed and exorbitantly priced, with promises of near miraculous benefit.

How many of them cannot even be afforded without becoming a distributor!

[RdJ]

On 3/9/2024 at 8:46 PM, Marathoner said:

Agreed, my friend. "Jezebel" from the book of Revelation specifically refers to a woman who called herself a prophetess; nowhere do we find mention of a Jezebel spirit in the scriptures. 

What's the most important lesson to be learned? Consider what this so-called prophetess was doing: she was teaching others to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols, the latter of which was common during the time when the book of Revelation was written. This directly relates to Acts 15:

"Since we have heard that some of our number to whom we gave no instruction have confused you by their teaching, upsetting your souls, it seemed good to us, having become of one mind, to select men to send to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore, we have sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will also report the same things by word of mouth. For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these essentials: that you abstain from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from acts of sexual immorality; if you keep yourselves free from such things, you will do well. Farewell.” (Acts 15: 24-29 NASB)

No coincidence. Abstaining from sexual immorality and refusing to eat things sacrificed to idols was the guidance given by the Holy Spirit. Therefore, the issue here isn't some spirit but rather, sexual immorality and things sacrificed to idols. The latter is unheard of in western cultures. 

Unheard of? We have a grocery store. They were so lousy, they let those muslims kill cows their way, but not only for them, no all the meat, cause it was easier. Nobody knew. They had to stop it when they found out. Not that I think it matters if you eat meat sacrificed to Allah or whatever Hindu god, cause Paul said it didn't matter, but they do offer it to idols. I wonder if that is what he's talking about. I would think it's about all the charismania, mixture, kundalini.

Uncleanness, there are unclean spirits involved, but also the false teaching that it is fine. I remember when I had backslid and lived in sin I saw videos from the Toronto blessing with that slime stuff that oh my ex was so unfriendly and then God gave me another guy like it was all just normal to dump one and move on to the next and the mixture was also there. Todd Bentley who ran off with the nanny and then the Arnotts said oh dont be so judgemental. He just married her and she got the most insane 'prophecy/dream'. I only know cause atheists from an atheist forum I was on posted it to mock it.

If God's Word says something is sin, but then one goes against it with yeah but the Holy Spirit said the opposite. It's fine. Go ahead. That's that Jezebel stuff.