Questions for evolution believers

[RV_Wizard]

11 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

No, it is NOT that.  Where do you think I said anything like that nonsense?

That was in reference to the Barbarian.  The first part was to you.

[RV_Wizard]

8 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

Yes we all see that you are willing to accept that God made living things.   The point is that you don't approve of the way He did it.

The way He did it, according to the Scriptures, was to create all living things on the land in one day; just as He created all living things in the waters in one day.  You continue to pretend that those verses do not exist because the truth destroys your argument.

[The Barbarian]

Yes we all see that you are willing to accept that God made living things.   The point is that you don't approve of the way He did it. The way He did it, according to the Scriptures, was for earlier creation to bring forth living things.    You continue to pretend that those verses do not exist because the truth destroys your argument.

And you can't accept that.    Try to find a way to let it be His way.

 

[RV_Wizard]

22 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

The point is that you don't approve of the way He did it. The way He did it, according to the Scriptures, was for earlier creation to bring forth living things.    You continue to pretend that those verses do not exist because the truth destroys your argument.

Awwww, golly gee.  You've taken your dishonest quote mining to a new level, haven't you?  You conveniently forgot the prepositional phrase, "in the day," like you conveniently forget "the evening and the morning were the sixth day," “All in whose nostrils was the breath of life,” and everything else which contradicts your false religion.  There can be no question that evolution is a religion based on lies because you apparently have to lie repeatedly to support it.  It's amazing the lows to which your arguments have devolved.  Perhaps there is no evolution of arguments in  support of evolution.

Next you'll re-state the fabrication that water rose to 10,000 feet deep on land 1,500 feet above sea level without any of it running off into the sea.  Maybe you'll regale us with tales of the common ancestry of humans and daffodils.  Or maybe we'll even get the story of how the early days of creation could not have been actual days because the light that shone on the earth at that time wasn't called the sun (actually, it wasn't called the sun at all in the first chapters of Genesis).

Regardless, my previous admonition still stands.  Anyone who believes in both the Bible and evolution has a firm understanding of neither. 

Edited March 8, 2024 by RV_Wizard

[Diaste]

I see a lot of this melding of philosophies of opposite character. 

Evolution destroys any purpose behind the nature of existence; dehumanizing mankind to the point of the purely animalistic, reducing God's interest in mankind to indifference and absenteeism. 

This is the opposite of what God says in scripture about His desired relationship with all mankind and is a doctrine of deceivers.

 

[FreeGrace]

11 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

The way He did it, according to the Scriptures, was to create all living things on the land in one day; just as He created all living things in the waters in one day.  You continue to pretend that those verses do not exist because the truth destroys your argument.

You are assuming the 6 days of Genesis 1 is creation, while "tohu wabohu" refutes that notion and indicates that the 6 days of Genesis 1 is a restoration.

[RV_Wizard]

5 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

You are assuming the 6 days of Genesis 1 is creation, while "tohu wabohu" refutes that notion and indicates that the 6 days of Genesis 1 is a restoration.

You never answered, restoration from what?  There is no Biblical support for Gap theory.  The order of creation disallows any life of any kind prior to the third day.  There was no external universe before day four.  You're grasping at straws to show an old earth without a purpose.  Your contention is not only illogical, it's unsupportable.  If your acceptance into Heaven (it's not)  was contingent on your belief in the Bible as read, would you gamble your soul on the modern re-definition of two words?

Personally, though the evolution crowd, the old earth crowd and woke crowd my think me a zealot, my faith remains in the Scriptures and every word that proceeds from the mouth of Jesus Christ.  If the Scriptures were in error He would have told us.  Instead, His most common rebuke was that others did not know the Scriptures and what was written. 

[FreeGrace]

1 hour ago, RV_Wizard said:

FreeGrace said: 

You are assuming the 6 days of Genesis 1 is creation, while "tohu wabohu" refutes that notion and indicates that the 6 days of Genesis 1 is a restoration.

You never answered.

Of course I did.  What's wrong with you?

1 hour ago, RV_Wizard said:

restoration from what?

Over and over I have proven from how tohu wabohu is translated elsewhere in the Bible that shows desctruction rather than construction.

And v.2 in the literal Hebrew is, "but the earth became an uninhabitable wasteland", but it seems you are simply incapable to understanding these simple words.

1 hour ago, RV_Wizard said:

  There is no Biblical support for Gap theory.

Of course not.  Since God gave no details about what happened, or by what/who, there is NO theory.  A time gap is quite obvious from v.2, but since you have closed your mind to the FACTS of v.2, there's no point in reminding you of what it says.

1 hour ago, RV_Wizard said:

  The order of creation disallows any life of any kind prior to the third day.

Only when ASSUMING the days are about creation.  I don't assume anything, unlike yourself.

1 hour ago, RV_Wizard said:

  There was no external universe before day four.

Only when ASSUMING the days are about creation.

1 hour ago, RV_Wizard said:

  You're grasping at straws to show an old earth without a purpose.

Please quit criticizing God for leaving out details.  There are NO straws on my side, but only on your side, since you flatly deny the reality of the meaning of "tohu wabohu".

1 hour ago, RV_Wizard said:

  Your contention is not only illogical, it's unsupportable. 

That would be your dogma.  You've proven nothing, other than your incomprehensible comments about "formless" being real.

1 hour ago, RV_Wizard said:

If your acceptance into Heaven (it's not)  was contingent on your belief in the Bible as read, would you gamble your soul on the modern re-definition of two words?

If all that were true, I'd SURE WANT TO KNOW what the literal Hebrew means, unlike yourself.  Your comment just shot yourself in the foot.

1 hour ago, RV_Wizard said:

Personally, though the evolution crowd, the old earth crowd and woke crowd my think me a zealot, my faith remains in the Scriptures and every word that proceeds from the mouth of Jesus Christ.

This is quite dishonest since you clearly deny the meaning of the literal Hebrew of v.2.

1 hour ago, RV_Wizard said:

  If the Scriptures were in error He would have told us.

What is in error is any English translation that leaves out the meaning of the literal Hebrew of v.2.  LIke the KJV and those who copied it.

1 hour ago, RV_Wizard said:

 Instead, His most common rebuke was that others did not know the Scriptures and what was written. 

And His rebuke reaches all the way to you.  But it's worse for you.  You've been told what the literal Hebrew means, through all the verses elsewhere in the OT and yet you REFUSE to accept the meaning in v.2.

[The Barbarian]

10 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

Awwww, golly gee.  You've taken your dishonest quote mining to a new level, haven't you?  You conveniently forgot the prepositional phrase, "in one day," like

It's "in the day", not "in one day."    You changed God's word to make it fit your own wishes.    This is why you can't find any comfort in His word.

2 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

Personally, though the evolution crowd, the old earth crowd and woke crowd my think me a zealot, my faith remains in the Scriptures and every word that proceeds from the mouth of Jesus Christ.

Except for things like the above.   Put your pride aside and let it be God's way.

 

[Starise]

6 minutes ago, The Barbarian said:

It's "in the day", not "in one day."    You changed God's word to make it fit your own wishes.    This is why you can't find any comfort in His word.

Ridiculous.