Questions for evolution believers

[The Barbarian]

It's "in the day", not "in one day."    You changed God's word to make it fit your own wishes.    This is why you can't find any comfort in His word.

2 hours ago, Starise said:

Ridiculous.

I used to think so.  But I've noticed that people often change words like that to make the text fit their own ideas.

 

[The Barbarian]

7 hours ago, Diaste said:

Evolution destroys any purpose behind the nature of existence; dehumanizing mankind to the point of the purely animalistic, reducing God's interest in mankind to indifference and absenteeism. 

If God made us by evolution, instead of from mud, we'd be dehumanized?    God doesn't seem to think so.    Why not just let Him have it His way?   Stop putting words in God's mouth.

 

[RV_Wizard]

10 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

If all that were true, I'd SURE WANT TO KNOW what the literal Hebrew means, unlike yourself.

Bad tidings for you.  You aren't posting in original Hebrew and we aren't reading in original Hebrew.  This means the words require translation.  All of your posts are based on a modern translation that makes no sense whatever.  Good luck with that.

[RV_Wizard]

10 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

It's "in the day", not "in one day."   

In the day is, in fact correct.  I failed to proof my post,.  Good catch.

[RV_Wizard]

6 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

If God made us by evolution, instead of from mud, we'd be dehumanized?  

If God didn't think it was important to tell us the truth about how we were created in His image, He wouldn't have explained it to us.  However, God very specifically spread the creation over a six day period.  Then He rested on the seventh.  This is how a week came to be.  Months have the cycle of the moon.  Years have the seasons.  The week is only a measure of time because of the week of creation.

[The Barbarian]

If God made us by evolution, instead of from mud, we'd be dehumanized?  

54 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

If God didn't think it was important to tell us the truth about how we were created in His image, He wouldn't have explained it to us. 

And as you know, He didn't explain it.   Humans were created from the Earth like the other animals.   But He didn't go into the details as to how.

55 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

The week is only a measure of time because of the week of creation.

You got that wrong, too.   Circaseptan rhythms are common in animals, including humans.    Long before the sabbath, seven-day rhythms were a characteristic of living things.    You have it backwards.   As Jesus says, the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.    Listen to Him.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/ebiom/article/PIIS2352-3964(21)00492-8/fulltext

 

[RV_Wizard]

1 hour ago, The Barbarian said:

Humans were created from the Earth like the other animals.   But He didn't go into the details as to how.

He very specifically said how He did it and how long it took.  Stop pretending He didn't.  We both know man and animals were created on the sixth day of creation.  We both know that evolution is a direct opposite of the creation, and you can only believe in one or the other.  You chose to believe evolution, and you reject every word of Scripture that disagrees (which is a lot).

1 hour ago, The Barbarian said:

Long before the sabbath, seven-day rhythms were a characteristic of living things.

Considering that animals were created on the sixth day and the Sabbath LITERALLY the next, your claim is quite obviously just another false claim.  You're good at them.  You've put out more fiction than Corín Tellado (a Spanish romance writer with 4,000 published books).   Your post about biorhythms has NOTHING whatever to do with the creation of the seven day week.  It's just another diversion.

[Diaste]

15 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

If God made us by evolution, instead of from mud, we'd be dehumanized?    God doesn't seem to think so.    Why not just let Him have it His way?   Stop putting words in God's mouth.

 

You should take your own advice. Hard to do, I know. 

How do you know what God thinks? You do an interview?

Let Him have His way? Am I supposed to stop Him somehow, make Him do things I want? 

Of all the ridiculous stabs at manipulation....

[FreeGrace]

11 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

FreeGrace said: 

If all that were true, I'd SURE WANT TO KNOW what the literal Hebrew means, unlike yourself.

Bad tidings for you.  You aren't posting in original Hebrew and we aren't reading in original Hebrew.  

What in the world do you think you have been reading (if at all) from what I've quoted?  I directly quoted 5 translations of Gen 1:2, and ALL 32 translations of Isa 34:11 to show what tohu means.

11 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

  This means the words require translation.

Which is what I've done.  Over and over.  But it appears your bias has kept you from reading any of it.

11 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

  All of your posts are based on a modern translation that makes no sense whatever.  Good luck with that.

Are you really that incapable of understanding what a restoration is?

Further, ALL of the uses of "tohu" were written over 3,000 years ago.  How do you understand any of the OT if you are going to condemn only the English translations that were written after your fav KJV?  That isn't rational.

And, the later translations were done with MUCH EARLIER manuscripts, meaning FAR LESS scribal errors.  But, of course, KJV lovers hate that inconvenient FACT.

All you are doing is trying to EXCUSE yourself from accepting the clear FACTS.

But you have no excuse.  When EVERY translation of the 32 on biblehub.com translates "tohu wabohu" as "waste and void", "chaos and desolation", "confusion and emptiness", "destruction and chaos", "cord or ruin", "leave it in ruins", "barren waste", "ruin and destruction", except one that renders "tohu" as "formlessness", it is clear how translators understand what the word means.

And you, irrationally insist "tohu wabohu" in Gen 1:2 refers to creation.

Balderdash.

 

[FreeGrace]

11 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

If God didn't think it was important to tell us the truth about how we were created in His image, He wouldn't have explained it to us.  However, God very specifically spread the creation over a six day period.  Then He rested on the seventh.  This is how a week came to be.

No, the "week" came to be on the basis of restoring the planet for man's use.  What happened before the restoration is, so far, none of our business.  Or God would have told us the details.  But you've admitted that a restoration "makes no sense at all".  I'm sorry for your inability to understand straightforward information.

11 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

  Months have the cycle of the moon.  Years have the seasons.  The week is only a measure of time because of the week of creation.

The week of restoration.  As proven by evidence based on the literal Hebrew.