GOG-MAGOG-TIMING

[Revelation Man]

6 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

If Russia has already won ,then hundreds of Russians would not be dying in Ukraine everyday.A stalemate does not equal a win.Anyone who has played chess would know that.

 

Of course it does, they took what Lands they set out to take, said this is ours, try to come and get it, they can't, and never was going to be able to retake it. WAR WON.  The stalemate part means neither side is now gaining ground, well Russia has already taken much land, so a stale mate NOW means they won land, meaning they won the war.

Demonstration, the USA took Texas, then it became a stale mate.........WHO WON? Is Texas in the United States today? Yes, so the USA won. 

Edited November 8, 2023 by Revelation Man

[Shilohsfoal]

45 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

Of course it does, they took what Lands they set out to take, said this is ours, try to come and get it, they can't, and never was going to be able to retake it. WAR WON.  The stalemate part means neither said is gaining ground, well Russia has already taken much land, so a stale mate NOW means they won land, meaning they won the war.

Demonstration, the USA took Texas, then it became a stale mate.........WHO WON? Is Texas in the United States today? Yes, so the USA won. 

Russia set out to take kiev and remove the nazis in kiev from power.Risiia still has not achieved its goal of removing the nazis.lol

They haven't removed anyone.So since they could not achieve that goal they lowered the goal posts.

Little sisters of the poor still remain in power in Ukraine and Russia couldn't defeat them.Russia does not want anymore special military options.Norrh Korea doesnt have enough weapons for Russia to start another conflict.

Edited November 8, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[Revelation Man]

35 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Russia set out to take kiev and remove the nazis in kiev from power.Risiia still has not achieved its goal of removing the nazis.lol

 

In your mind, that was a feint, if you had been listening to the ex Gen. I was listening unto you would have known that, he said Russia is not going to try and take Kiev, and his guest was like, but they are attacking it, and he was like, yes, in order to draw their armies away from the areas they desire to take, those areas to the east which are mostly settled by Russians. So, you heard what you wanted to hear. They never wanted those areas, they can overtake areas with Russians without resistance from those living there. 

 

39 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

They haven't removed anyone.So since they could not achieve that goal they lowered the goal posts.

Little sisters of the poor still remain in power in Ukraine and Russia couldn't defeat them.Russia does not want anymore special military options.Norrh Korea doesnt have enough weapons for Russia to start another conflict.

They won the war, just as I stated they would, Pols in DC knew this long ago, but they need to feed the War Machine. 

 

[Shilohsfoal]

3 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

In your mind, that was a feint, if you had been listening to the ex Gen. I was listening unto you would have known that, he said Russia is not going to try and take Kiev, and his guest was like, but they are attacking it, and he was like, yes, in order to draw their armies away from the areas they desire to take, those areas to the east which are mostly settled by Russians. So, you heard what you wanted to hear. They never wanted those areas, they can overtake areas with Russians without resistance from those living there. 

 

They won the war, just as I stated they would, Pols in DC knew this long ago, but they need to feed the War Machine. 

 

No,Russia can't take kiev because they already tried and failed.

They tried to take kiev at the beginning of the war when they came down from Belarus but Ukraine stoped them outside of kiev .Russia then retreated back into Belarus and moved all it's it's troops that were to take kiev further east.

I'm betting at least 100000 Russians have died in Ukraine from the time you thought they had won.

[WilliamL]

On 11/7/2023 at 7:14 AM, Dennis1209 said:

With that in mind, on to the crux of my thoughts for the 1^st Gog-Magog war listed:

Because of the seven-year covenant with Death and Hell, Israel will be in relative peace for the first 3.5 years of Daniel’s 70^th week. At the Abomination of Desolation at about 3.5 years into the Tribulation (the time of Jacob’s trouble), all of Israel will have to flee for their lives because of the final satanic genocide that starts.

The closure of the Tribulation is marked by Jesus’s second coming, which will usher in His millennial kingdom. Until the final uprising against Christ at the end of the millennium, will there be any wars during the thousand years of His reign? No!

So, what can we deduce if the above is accurate and correct?

The above is not accurate and correct, so therefore nothing deduced from it will be either.

[Shilohsfoal]

5 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

In your mind, that was a feint, if you had been listening to the ex Gen. I was listening unto you would have known that, he said Russia is not going to try and take Kiev, and his guest was like, but they are attacking it, and he was like, yes, in order to draw their armies away from the areas they desire to take, those areas to the east which are mostly settled by Russians. So, you heard what you wanted to hear. They never wanted those areas, they can overtake areas with Russians without resistance from those living there. 

 

They won the war, just as I stated they would, Pols in DC knew this long ago, but they need to feed the War Machine. 

 

PS

Don't forget,it's not a war.Its a special military operation and was expected to take a couple of weeks.

Putin on his special military operation.

 

I have decided to conduct a special military operation," said Putin, seated at a desk in the Kremlin next to a battery of telephones, with the Russian flag behind him.

"Its goal is to protect people who have been subjected to bullying and genocide... for the last eight years. And for this we will strive for the demilitarisation and denazification of Ukraine.

"And to bring to court those who committed numerous bloody crimes against civilians, including against citizens of the Russian Federation."

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-putin-authorises-military-operations-donbass-domestic-media-2022-02-24/

 

Putin has not demilitarized or denazified Ukraine and he has not protected those he says were bullied.Insted he has conscripted many of them and sent to to the front to die.Putin has not achieved any of his goals so he lowered those goals to annexing parts of Ukraine .Now he is trying to hold onto the parts he has invaded so as to look like he accomplished something.

 

 

Edited November 8, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[Revelation Man]

13 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

PS

Don't forget,it's not a war.Its a special military operation and was expected to take a couple of weeks.

Putin on his special military operation.

 

I have decided to conduct a special military operation," said Putin, seated at a desk in the Kremlin next to a battery of telephones, with the Russian flag behind him.

"Its goal is to protect people who have been subjected to bullying and genocide... for the last eight years. And for this we will strive for the demilitarisation and denazification of Ukraine.

"And to bring to court those who committed numerous bloody crimes against civilians, including against citizens of the Russian Federation.

1,) You ought to know better than to be believe anything a commander says out in the open (lol). 2.) Putin had the land he desired very, very early on. Nothing will change now. He won the war in that he took their land and they can do nothing about it. If we took 1/3 or 1/2 of Canada and then the Canadians were like, you can't take the rest of Canada, we are winning, everyone would laugh at them. 

You were wrong, just admit it brother. 

[Shilohsfoal]

17 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

1,) You ought to know better than to be believe anything a commander says out in the open (lol). 2.) Putin had the land he desired very, very early on. Nothing will change now. He won the war in that he took their land and they can do nothing about it. If we took 1/3 or 1/2 of Canada and then the Canadians were like, you can't take the rest of Canada, we are winning, everyone would laugh at them. 

You were wrong, just admit it brother. 

He has done nothing he set out to do.

Putin is an utter failure who has killing off his own citizens in the hopes of not loosing everything.I wouldn't be surprised if another 50000 Russians died in Ukraine in the next year and many more amputees walking on crutches through Russian streets for the rest of their lives.

All while you are preaching,Putin won.Putin won.Hooray for Putin.

 

 

Edited November 8, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[AdHoc]

14 hours ago, Diaste said:

But if that was the case, then Israel is cooking with weapons for 7 years after the millennium ends, during the GWT judgment I presume, and burying bodies for 7 months after the millennium ends, when Rev 20 says fire consumed Gog and Magog and all the nations with them at the end of the millennium. 

Why would there be bodies to bury if Gog and Magog and the nations surrounding the camp are consumed?

2719 katesthíō (from 2596 /katá, "down," intensifying 2068 /esthíō, "eat") – properly, eat all the way down; (figuratively) utterly devour, leaving nothing; ferociously consume all the way down, i.e. with a rapacious, voracious appetite – leaving only ruination, without hope of recovery (or even remains).

This 'consuming' is in the strongest possible term; there's nothing left to bury.

Compare 1 Kings 18;

38Then the fire of the LORD fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that [was] in the trench.

The fire of God consumed the wood, stones, dust and the water, not just the flesh, literally left nothing but memory, even the dust was gone.

 

Indeed. You have the right meaning. But you have to take your dispute to the Holy Spirit. It is He that said Israel would bury the dead to cleanse the Land for 7 months and fuel their fires for 7 years with the weapons

And then you would be faced with those who utterly consumed widows houses (Matt.233:14, Mk.12:40, Lk.20:47) - an absurdity ... unless "devour" can also be a metaphor.

But we have another problem. How could they be burying the dead during the GWT when all are resurrected for this assize?

Just thinking ...

[Diaste]

9 hours ago, AdHoc said:

Indeed. You have the right meaning. But you have to take your dispute to the Holy Spirit. It is He that said Israel would bury the dead to cleanse the Land for 7 months and fuel their fires for 7 years with the weapons

Yes, but the idea is 'when' so we can understand.

9 hours ago, AdHoc said:

And then you would be faced with those who utterly consumed widows houses (Matt.233:14, Mk.12:40, Lk.20:47) - an absurdity ... unless "devour" can also be a metaphor.

Not really the ideal context, is it? Pharisees aren't God, they don't breathe out consuming fire, emanating from heaven, on vast armies looking to take down the King and His kingdom.  This is a righteous act poured out on God's enemies.

The apt comparison was the time fire did come down from God and consume the wood, stones, water and the very dust, leaving nothing. This is  righteous act in real power in the face of God's enemies.

Unscrupulous and corrupt religious leaders consuming the entire living of the vulnerable isn't in the same universe. 

This is unrighteous acts born of avarice.

9 hours ago, AdHoc said:

But we have another problem. How could they be burying the dead during the GWT when all are resurrected for this assize?

Just thinking ...

My point precisely. It must come at another time when it's reasonable and not in competition with other factual events.