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On 12/5/2023 at 5:16 PM, R. Hartono said:

https://sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe018.htm 

They are the spirits of Nephilim killed by the Noah deluge.

 

And the angels which kept not their first estate , but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
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12 hours ago, AFlameOfFire said:

Ever hear the story of Paul Bunyan?

He was GIANT lumberjack, a big tree FELLER:laugh:

They say he was a man of “great stature” he was a big feller.😂

Num 13:32 - And they brought upan evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, isa land that eateth up the inhabitantsthereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature

Num 13:33 - And there we sawthe giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight “as grasshoppers,”and so we were in their sight.

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On 12/5/2023 at 5:16 PM, R. Hartono said:

https://sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe018.htm 

They are the spirits of Nephilim killed by the Noah deluge.

 

That is what the two of them that lived with me from 1974 to 1979 told me, more than once.

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I view these things in the following manner.

The sons of God (angels) who left their first estate --- the fathers of the giants of old --- are imprisoned in darkness, awaiting their judgment. 

Spiritual powers of darkness (Ephesians 6), who themselves might be reckoned as mighty angels, are of the kind who delayed the angel sent to Daniel (Daniel 10). That power of darkness was called the Prince of Persia, who was overcome when the Prince of Israel, Michael, intervened. These dark princes rule over principalities of wickedness which, I believe, correspond to the civilizations and nations of man. 

Unclean spirits, also known as demons, the spirits of slain giants who roam the "dry places" of the earth. 

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16 hours ago, other one said:

That is what the two of them that lived with me from 1974 to 1979 told me, more than once.

Who are you talking about ?

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6 hours ago, Marathoner said:

I view these things in the following manner.

The sons of God (angels) who left their first estate --- the fathers of the giants of old --- are imprisoned in darkness, awaiting their judgment. 

Spiritual powers of darkness (Ephesians 6), who themselves might be reckoned as mighty angels, are of the kind who delayed the angel sent to Daniel (Daniel 10). That power of darkness was called the Prince of Persia, who was overcome when the Prince of Israel, Michael, intervened. These dark princes rule over principalities of wickedness which, I believe, correspond to the civilizations and nations of man. 

Unclean spirits, also known as demons, the spirits of slain giants who roam the "dry places" of the earth. 

Was there a genetic anomaly that produced Giants ?

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On 12/6/2023 at 8:39 AM, FJK said:

Interesting, something I've never heard stated before and would like to learn more about.

How, or where, would I find support for this (the lumberjack thing)?

I believe it's a strongly Jewish historical view. He can correct me if I'm wrong.

I see no support for it as in otgher texts  it says there were giants. Plus, how do we explain the large sleletons and structures. Also was Goliath a wood cutter? I seriously doubt it.

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On 12/7/2023 at 5:50 AM, R. Hartono said:

There are many haunted places that took many victims on earth, i saw that but you wont believe.

No, I asked for biblical evidence of spirits roaming the earth, not your belief in un verified supernatural events.

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Can these examples be used to make the point in any way?

Job 1:7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earthand from walking up and down in it.

Because the LORD just shows Satan goes to and fro in the earth itself there

Then here with the man with many unclean spirits or devils he asks

Luke 8:30 And Jesus asked him, saying, What is thy name?

And he said, Legion: because many devils were entered into him.

Those devils or unclean spirits besought Jesus that he would allow them to enter into the swine if they were to be cast out, so in a sense one could say they roam from house (person) to house (person or pig for that matter) because it says here

Luke 11:24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, 
I will return unto my house whence I came out
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This one shows an example of that same spirit (that abode as one in "that" man) and after he has gone out of that man, can take to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself and enter back into a human house/body, and be a resident there.

If anything, it looks like people can be occupied haunted houses 
 

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On 12/8/2023 at 8:11 AM, R. Hartono said:

Who are you talking about ?

Two demons that I was studying in the mid to late 70s.

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