"Global Warming" Oscillations?

[Still Alive]

I'm bowing out of this one. I used to argue this ad nausium in the early 2000's. I finally realized I was guilty of this:

 

I was on threads that were thousands of posts long. Not any more. 

[BeyondET]

5 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

 

I did make one error, though.  It was 10 years without a hurricane.

You still made an error, there are hurricanes in the NH and syclones in the SH every year. Rather or not they make landfall is another issue.

Edited March 18, 2024 by BeyondET

[RV_Wizard]

On 3/18/2024 at 1:34 PM, BeyondET said:

You still made an error, there are hurricanes in the NH and syclones in the SH every year. Rather or not they make landfall is another issue.

They specifically said Florida was going to have a record number of hurricanes, not that they would be vacant from the planet.  The Caribbean was very calm for ten years after.  The point is, all their models fail.  All their predictions are hype.  While they scream about the rising seas, they fly private jets to conferences and buy up beachfront property.  The goal is to form a one world government.  It will be accomplished one day, and the Beast will be its ruler.

[The Barbarian]

6 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

They specifically said Florida was going to have a record number of hurricanes, not that they would be vacant from the planet.

Your guys maybe.  Climatologists were saying "stronger storms", but I don't see any saying "more storms."   As you saw, there have been slightly more storms in recent decades, but the big deal is that they tend to be much stronger now.

6 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

The point is, all their models fail.  All their predictions are hype.  While they scream about the rising seas, they fly private jets to conferences and buy up beachfront property.  The goal is to form a one world government.  It will be accomplished one day, and the Beast will be its ruler.

Sounds kinda emotionally-driven to me.   Bottom line?  Warming is proceeding as predicted decades ago, and increasingly large storm losses on the Gulf coast are making some places uninsurable.

That's the reality.   The Beast and one world government, not so much at least for the forseeable future.

 

[BeyondET]

On 3/20/2024 at 6:56 AM, RV_Wizard said:

They specifically said Florida was going to have a record number of hurricanes, not that they would be vacant from the planet.  The Caribbean was very calm for ten years after.  The point is, all their models fail.  All their predictions are hype.  While they scream about the rising seas, they fly private jets to conferences and buy up beachfront property.  The goal is to form a one world government.  It will be accomplished one day, and the Beast will be its ruler.

You should look up the information before making such statements. I guess you didn't read up on Irma 2017 or Dorian in 2019.

Edited March 26, 2024 by BeyondET

[RV_Wizard]

5 hours ago, BeyondET said:

I guess you didn't read up on Irma 2017 or Dorian in 2019.

The ten years in question was from 2005 - 2015.  Last I knew, both 2015 and 2019 came after 2015.  I guess you didn't read my post.

[The Barbarian]

59 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

The ten years in question was from 2005 - 2015.

The 2005 Atlantic hurricane season was the most active year on record until surpassed by 2020. It featured 28^[1] tropical or subtropical storms. The United States National Hurricane Center^{[nb 1]} named 27 storms, exhausting the annual pre-designated list, requiring the use of six Greek letter names, and adding an additional unnamed storm during a post-season re-analysis. A record 15 storms attained hurricane status, with maximum sustained winds of at least 74 miles per hour (119 km/h). Of those, a record seven became major hurricanes, rated Category 3 or higher on the Saffir–Simpson scale. Four storms of this season became Category 5 hurricanes, the highest ranking.

The four Category 5 hurricanes during the season were: Emily, Katrina, Rita, and Wilma. In July, Emily reached peak intensity in the Caribbean Sea, becoming the first Category 5 hurricane of the season, later weakening and striking Mexico twice. In August, Katrina reached peak winds in the Gulf of Mexico but weakened by the time it struck the U.S. states of Louisiana and Mississippi. The most devastating effects of the season were felt on the Gulf Coast of the United States, where Katrina's storm surge crippled New Orleans, Louisiana, for weeks and devastated the Mississippi coastline.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Atlantic_hurricane_season

The 2006 Atlantic hurricane season was the least active in the basin since 1997, with nine named storms as well as an additional unnamed tropical storm identified by the National Hurricane Center. 2006 was the first season since 2001 in which no hurricanes made landfall in the United States,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Atlantic_hurricane_season

The 2007 Atlantic hurricane season was the first season since 2003 to feature tropical activity both before and after the official bounds of the season. There were an above-average number of named storms during the season – 15, however many storms were weak and short-lived. Despite the predominance of weak systems, this was the first season on record to feature more than one Category 5 landfalling hurricane. This would not happen again until 2017

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Atlantic_hurricane_season

The 2008 Atlantic hurricane season was the most destructive Atlantic hurricane season since 2005, causing over 1,000 deaths and nearly $50 billion (2008 USD) in damage.^{[nb 1]} The season ranked as the third costliest ever at the time, but has since fallen to ninth costliest. It was an above-average season, featuring sixteen named storms, eight of which became hurricanes, and five which further became major hurricanes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Atlantic_hurricane_season

The 2009 Atlantic hurricane season was a near-average Atlantic hurricane season that produced eleven tropical cyclones, nine named storms, three hurricanes, and two major hurricanes.^{[1][nb 1]} It officially began on June 1 and ended on November 30, dates that conventionally delimit the period of each year when most tropical cyclones develop in the Atlantic basin.^[3] The season's first tropical cyclone, Tropical Depression One, developed on May 28,^[4] while the final storm, Hurricane Ida, dissipated on November 10.^[5] The most intense hurricane, Bill, was a powerful Cape Verde-type hurricane that affected areas from the Leeward Islands to Newfoundland.^[6] The season featured the lowest number of tropical cyclones since the 1997 season, and only one system, Claudette, made landfall in the United States. Forming from the interaction of a tropical wave and an upper-level low, Claudette made landfall on the Florida Panhandle with maximum sustained winds of 45 mph (70 km/h) before quickly dissipating over Alabama. The storm killed two people and caused $228,000 (2009 USD) in damage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Atlantic_hurricane_season

The 2010 Atlantic hurricane season was the first of three consecutive very active Atlantic hurricane seasons, each with 19 named storms. This above average activity included 12 hurricanes, equaling the number that formed in 1969. Only the 2020 and 2005 seasons have had more, at 14 and 15 hurricanes respectively. Despite the high number of hurricanes, not one hurricane hit the United States making the season the only season with 10 or more hurricanes without a United States landfall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Atlantic_hurricane_season

The 2011 Atlantic hurricane season was the second in a group of three very active Atlantic hurricane seasons, each with 19 named storms, only behind 1887, 1995, 2010, and 2012. The above-average activity was mostly due to a La Niña that persisted during the previous year. Of the season's 19 tropical storms, only seven strengthened into hurricanes, and four of those became major hurricanes: Irene, Katia, Ophelia, and Rina. The season officially began on June 1 and ended on November 30, dates which conventionally delimit the period during each year in which most tropical cyclones develop in the Atlantic Ocean. However, the first tropical storm of the season, Arlene, did not develop until nearly a month later. The final system, Tropical Storm Sean, dissipated over the open Atlantic on November 11.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Atlantic_hurricane_season

After striking Cuba at Category 3 intensity on the Saffir–Simpson hurricane wind scale, the hurricane moved ashore the southern coastline of New Jersey. Sandy left 286 dead and $68.7 billion worth of damage in its wake, making it the fifth-costliest Atlantic hurricane on record, behind only Hurricane Maria in 2017, Hurricane Katrina in 2005, Hurricane Ian in 2022, and Hurricane Harvey in 2017. Collectively, the season's storms caused at least 355 fatalities and about $71.6 billion in damage, making 2012 the deadliest season since 2008 and the costliest since 2005.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Atlantic_hurricane_season

The season's overall impact was minimal; although 15 tropical cyclones developed, most were weak or remained at sea. Tropical Storm Andrea killed four people after making landfall in Florida and moving up the East Coast of the United States. In early July

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Atlantic_hurricane_season

Although every named storm impacted land, overall effects were minimal. Arthur caused one indirect fatality and $16.8 million (2014 USD)^{[nb 2]} in damage after striking North Carolina and becoming the first Category 2 hurricane to make landfall in the United States since 2008's Hurricane Ike, and its remnants moving across Atlantic Canada. Hurricane Bertha brushed the Lesser Antilles but its impacts were relatively minor. Three deaths occurred offshore the United States and one fatal injury was reported off the coast of the United Kingdom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Atlantic_hurricane_season

The 2015 Atlantic hurricane season was the last of three consecutive below average Atlantic hurricane seasons. It produced twelve tropical cyclones, eleven named storms, four hurricanes, and two major hurricanes.^[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Atlantic_hurricane_season

How could anyone say there were no hurricanes in this period?

 

[BeyondET]

2 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

The ten years in question was from 2005 - 2015.  Last I knew, both 2015 and 2019 came after 2015.  I guess you didn't read my post.

You didn't say that in the post and I guess you still didn't hear of Ike 08 and Dennis 05 that rolled through the Caribbeans in that time frame. And there was Ivan in o4.

The list below shows that major hurricanes have been increasing in the last couple of decade or so.

https://www.weather.gov/mob/tropical_events

From 1979 back to 1852 there was only two hurricane seasons with two hurricanes and that was 1916 and 1901.

Today it's the norm to have multiple hurricanes each year and more towards 3 to 4 major hurricanes than 1 or 2.

Edited March 27, 2024 by BeyondET

[RV_Wizard]

5 hours ago, BeyondET said:

You didn't say that in the post

You didn't read the previous post.  The prediction was that Florida would be racked by hurricanes because of global warming.  Florida didn't see another hurricane for 10 years.

[RV_Wizard]

6 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

How could anyone say there were no hurricanes in this period?

The prediction was that Florida was going to be hit with multiple hurricanes, and none touched Florida soil for the next ten years.  Predicting storms is as easy as predicting darkness at the end of the day.  I do have a request, though.  Why don't all you global warming crazies proclaim that the absolute decimation of the Florida coastline is a certainty in the next year.  Maybe it would make beachfront property more affordable.