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So does God put us through trials? or does he allow them?


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13 minutes ago, Know Jah said:

So does God put us through trials? or does he allow them?

Do you know the answer, or is this a legitimate inquiry? 


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I think I know the answer, I am curious of others thoughts/opinions


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6 hours ago, Know Jah said:

So does God put us through trials? or does he allow them?

Hi, and thanks for the reply! He puts us through trials, but also allows them, but in all cases He "works" every one of them out for our "good" (Ro 8:28).

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8 hours ago, WordSword said:

No matter the size of the trial it’s always the same issue—waiting it out, so we can continue to grow in our trust and faith in God!  One of the most important growth truths is the fact that God always “works all things together for good to them that love God” (Ro 8:28). So, regardless the type of difficulty, and whether or not we understand why we’re going through what we’re going through at the time, He is without fail causing it to benefit us, and continue to increase our faith in Him. 

There’s no trial so small and none too big that God takes into account and “works” it out His way! Of all the spiritual exercises God puts us through, waiting patiently on Him in our trials exercises to endure the hardness of all trials. It is quite encouraging when we already know what to do in a trial—hold out, “be still” (Psa 46:10) and wait on God! His answer for us will result for the good of our faith; and our love for Him is commensurate with our faith in Him, because “faith operates by love” (Gal 5:6).

There’s nothing more effective for God’s guidance to us other than knowing we must wait on Him. This is the best time to trust Him and know He is using every little thing for His plans for us! We can do nothing, even if we tried, to interfere with His loving plans for us!

NC
 

He knows our personal limitations,

and pushes us to grow, but not to break us!

1 Corinthians 10:13 No temptation has overtaken you except

such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not

allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but

with the temptation will also make the way of escape,

that you may be able to bear it.

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1 hour ago, WordSword said:

Hi, and thanks for the reply! He puts us through trials, but also allows them, but in all cases He "works" every one of them out for our "good" (Ro 8:28).

You stated it as fact for both yet you never gave a scripture. What is a trial? They say  A trial is an examination by testing. Biblically, it is a test of faith in which you experience trouble or adversity. If this is what it means then God had no hand in it. Some use this in the case of Job that God allowed it. Another rabbit hole. Odd we need it here but not in heaven.

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22 minutes ago, TheBlade said:

You stated it as fact for both yet you never gave a scripture. What is a trial? They say  A trial is an examination by testing. Biblically, it is a test of faith in which you experience trouble or adversity. If this is what it means then God had no hand in it. Some use this in the case of Job that God allowed it. Another rabbit hole. Odd we need it here but not in heaven.

Want scriptures? Got scriptures.

Deuteronomy 8:2 And you shall remember that the Lord your God led you all the way these forty years in the wilderness, to humble you and test you, to know what was in your heart, whether you would keep His commandments or not. 3 So He humbled you, allowed you to hunger, and fed you with manna which you did not know nor did your fathers know, that He might make you know that man shall not live by bread alone; but man lives by every word that proceeds from the mouth of the Lord. 4 Your garments did not wear out on you, nor did your foot swell these forty years. 5 You should know in your heart that as a man chastens his son, so the Lord your God chastens you.

Trial by testing: definitely yes. 

Temptation to sin, definitely no.

James 1:12 Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him. 13 Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone. 14 But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. 15 Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.

16 Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.


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4 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

Trial by testing: definitely yes. 

Adversity of circumstances,

as well as the hand of enemies.

Psalm 17:

7 Shew thy marvelous lovingkindness,

O thou that save by thy right hand them

which put their trust in thee from those

that rise up against them.

8 Keep me as the apple of the eye,

hide me under the shadow of thy wings,

9 From the wicked that oppress me,

from my deadly enemies, who compass me about.

10 They are enclosed in their own fat:

with their mouth they speak proudly.

11 They have now compassed us in our steps:

they have set their eyes bowing down to the earth;

12 Like as a lion that is greedy of his prey, and as it

were a young lion lurking in secret places.

13 Arise, O Lord, disappoint him, cast him down:

deliver my soul from the wicked, which is thy sword:

14 From men which are thy hand, O Lord, from men of the world,

which have their portion in this life, and whose belly thou

fillest with thy hid treasure: they are full of children,

and leave the rest of their substance to their babes.

15 As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness:

I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness.


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16 hours ago, Mr. M said:

He knows our personal limitations,

and pushes us to grow, but not to break us!

1 Corinthians 10:13 No temptation has overtaken you except

such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not

allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but

with the temptation will also make the way of escape,

that you may be able to bear it.

Very applicable to the subject, and appreciate the encouraging reply!

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