Publick Edjukatione

[apothanein kerdos]

Learned something new yesterday:

Queen Elizabeth I was Queen during WWI.

[Gerioke]

In all fairness, I believe that parents are responsible for part of juniors education. I may not be a genius but I did acquire some knowledge through the public school system. I find that a lot of parents are letting PBS handle the homework instead of putting some time into their own children. The kids are being led by example in most cases.

[PwrInTheBld]

Learned something new yesterday:

Queen Elizabeth I was Queen during WWI.

Alive but not Queen during WWI......wonderful woman lived to a ripe old age of 101

Gerioke.....

I agree.

Parents feel their kids are in "good hands" once they're at school but if you don't stay or at least get involved in your childs school life, you may be very surprised to find out that they've made it to grade 8 and have been getting help with the use of a grade 4 book because they can't read.

[apothanein kerdos]

Mark, these are basic historical principles that these kids have "learned" already. Vietnam didn't occur in 1990 (they "learned" this in 8th grade history) but according to the majority it did.

[Pipit]

geez, and I thougth goin to school was to LEARN, and not show how

ENLIGHTENED WITH WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE one was....

heaven forbid an 50 year old stand up in sunday school class and ask

Who was Abraham?

there is no such thing as a "dumb question"...

and I can tell by the naivity and ignorance of the posts in this thread

that "lack of experience" is a MAJOR in lifes walk.

Einstein was the TRUE IDIOT.

As there is no such thing as a "dumb question":

Mark I, where did you learn to write sentences and paragraphs?

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The problem with education today is that it is subjective, and not objective (note that I am saying this from a Canadian understanding--and as someone who has seen how we teach our teachers to teach students). Logical reasoning based on facts is replaced by emotional tolerance (you base your choices on how you feel, not on what you know). Fact is slowly fictionalized and truth is vandalized. As such, the underlying ideology of teaching is that everything is to be measured and judged true or false, fact or fiction, based on feelings and opinons. Objective study of history (or science, or english, or social studies) is slowly moved out the door.

Why? Less what we teach as objective fact offends someone.

As for the students: the school systems no longer encourage learning or presents the challenge to learn. And so students, because they know they can pass with minimal effort do not make any effort to learn. And, because playing the X-Box is more fun then learning about the political climate fueled World War 1, and MTV is more entertaining then the news, they don't bother with those subjects (why learn, its boring? lets have fun). It is the T.V.-Entertain Me! generation!

In fact, if there is any indication that this latest (18 and under) generation has been lost to the TV and game systems, its the increased development of 'entertainment-educational' games aimed at the 5-10 age group that are coming onto the market. Its the admission that outside of those systems, we can not longer 'effective' teach or communication knowledge to those kids.

[hmh]

So let me get this straight. My two-year old who already knows here ABC's and can count to 20 in both english and spanish, and is starting to read on her own, plus is now starting to write a, b, c, etc. is probably going to be bored out of her mind when she starts first grade, providing she's not already going to private school? That's scary.

[yomotalking]

Learned something new yesterday:

Queen Elizabeth I was Queen during WWI.

Noooooooooooooooo

[apothanein kerdos]

So let me get this straight. My two-year old who already knows here ABC's and can count to 20 in both english and spanish, and is starting to read on her own, plus is now starting to write a, b, c, etc. is probably going to be bored out of her mind when she starts first grade, providing she's not already going to private school? That's scary.

She'll be labeled "gifted" and dumbed down, as it is not fair to other students for her to be that intelligent (I know it sounds like a conspiracy theory, but that is how the system works, I've read the manuel).

ALso, learned today that:

London is a country

Belgium is in Washington

Nova Scotia is in France

and here is possibly the best one:

John Kerry is our vice president.

[hmh]

So let me get this straight. My two-year old who already knows here ABC's and can count to 20 in both english and spanish, and is starting to read on her own, plus is now starting to write a, b, c, etc. is probably going to be bored out of her mind when she starts first grade, providing she's not already going to private school? That's scary.

Is she reading non-picture books and flashcards? If you type up her favorite stories from picture books, so that she can't see the pictures, can she still "read" it? How old is she in months?

Not only is she beginning to read non-picture books, but is able to understand what is written on paper. She is 28 months old. I hope this is not going to cause problems down the road.

[hmh]

I can remember some things from that time peroid, but unfortunately I did the booze thing in my late teens and early 20's and now I'm dealing with the consequences. I do plan on teaching my daughter why drinking is bad for you.