That Christianity could be exhibited thru us & heaven is our home . . .

[Vine Abider]

I heard a very well known and generally respected brother on the radio today, and he said these two things:

1. We must be continually in the word that Christianity would be exhibited to all we meet.

2. God will take us to heaven, which is our home.

What do you think about those two statements?

[Marilyn C]

40 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

I heard a very well known and generally respected brother on the radio today, and he said these two things:

1. We must be continually in the word that Christianity would be exhibited to all we meet.

2. God will take us to heaven, which is our home.

What do you think about those two statements?

Hi VA, 

You know I will say, "Amen, and amen." 

I think for the first point, I would rather say `That Jesus would be shown to all we meet.` 

And point two is scripturally correct, and my spirit agrees. 

Note: the battle in our time is not whether there is full immersion, or Holy Spirit infilling, or spiritual gifts, but it is where our destiny is - heaven or earth. 

[Vine Abider]

15 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi VA, 

You know I will say, "Amen, and amen." 

I think for the first point, I would rather say `That Jesus would be shown to all we meet.` 

And point two is scripturally correct, and my spirit agrees. 

Note: the battle in our time is not whether there is full immersion, or Holy Spirit infilling, or spiritual gifts, but it is where our destiny is - heaven or earth. 

Agreed that the first statement (in the OP) is, well, it's just off the mark.  No where in scripture does it say (or even imply) that, "Christianity in you the hope of glory" by any stretch!  I hear this kind of thing (mainly on radio & TV) all the time and it is just promoting an impersonal religion - one that has a form, but denies the reality and power and the fact that it is Christ living in us Who has the ability, not some CONCEPT externally followed, i.e., Christianity/religion. This goes to the heart of our new covenant faith (whereas regarding the second statement . . . not so much). 

[Vine Abider]

15 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

And point two is scripturally correct, and my spirit agrees. 

Note: the battle in our time is not whether there is full immersion, or Holy Spirit infilling, or spiritual gifts, but it is where our destiny is - heaven or earth. 

Why do you say "the battle in our time . . . is where our destiny is - heaven or earth"?

[Know Jah]

If heaven is our home, why was Adam put on earth?

[TrueFollowerOfChrist]

16 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

I heard a very well known and generally respected brother on the radio today, and he said these two things:

1. We must be continually in the word that Christianity would be exhibited to all we meet.

2. God will take us to heaven, which is our home.

What do you think about those two statements?

I agree 100% with the first statement. However the second statement is false. Earth was intended to be our eternal home, and that has not changed. The Book of Revelation specifically chapters 21 and 22 show us the New Jerusalem. Scripture mentions a New Heaven and a New Earth that we will live on forever. The current heaven that people go to when they die is actually a temporary heaven. After the millennium all saved people will live on the new Earth.

[Scott Free]

16 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

We must be continually in the word that Christianity would be exhibited to all we meet.

I love the original concept of the heart meaning both desire and intellect. To me, true continuous prayer is always being eager to figure out how be more like Jesus in our defining characteristics. Our attitude speaks louder than our words. Just blurting out phrases reveals a level of incompetence.

Edited February 14, 2024 by Scott Free

[Vine Abider]

54 minutes ago, TrueFollowerOfChrist said:

I agree 100% with the first statement. However the second statement is false. Earth was intended to be our eternal home, and that has not changed. The Book of Revelation specifically chapters 21 and 22 show us the New Jerusalem. Scripture mentions a New Heaven and a New Earth that we will live on forever. The current heaven that people go to when they die is actually a temporary heaven. After the millennium all saved people will live on the new Earth.

When you say you agree with the first statement, does that mean you think it is Christianity that should be exhibited through us? (we are agreed on the second statement being false)

42 minutes ago, Scott Free said:

I love the original concept of the heart meaning both desire and intellect. To me, true continuous prayer is always being eager to figure out how be more like Jesus in our defining characteristics. Our attitude speaks louder than our words. Just blurting out phrases reveals a level of incompetence.

So concerning who lives in us, is it Christianity or Christ?

[Scott Free]

4 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

So concerning who lives in us, is it Christianity or Christ?

In intentions of the heart are too complex to discern what is actuality going on. Are we following Christ out of compassion, are we doing it out of anxiety, for need of creature comforts, or social promotion? It is most likely all of the above and more at the same time as our desires fluctuate between them across time. May the Holy Spirit express the proper yearnings in us before the Father.

[Vine Abider]

2 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

So concerning who lives in us, is it Christianity or Christ?

Another way to say this @Scott Free is: "Concerning who lives in us, is it religion or Christ?"