Prophecy

[SeedofSource]

I have the gift of prophecy, it’s still being honed. Started with an illness in 2016 and God opened those doors for me. Opened other things, but He’s closing them. I met God, but didn’t know - Other things led me away, all the while, trying to find Him again - But I guess there’s a lot of mimicry. Things can come to you and promise things in a certain way and then it turns out to be something else.
You see more like some of the effects of what is happening, and it’s not always clear.

I rely on God a lot because I recognize my weaknesses very clearly and only the holy Trinity is really able to do anything. To me it feels like getting a lot of different puzzle pieces and you aren’t entirely sure of the picture that you’re making you just get a piece and it often fits together very cohesively with the Word, but sometimes there is inaccuracy do to my own human nature and I have to pray and refine that.

An example of that would be that I had a honeybee fly into a spiderweb and pulled it out and buried it near a plant that has a rock with a painted Christian cross in the soil. The next week, I noticed a spiderweb on the lemon balm. And had an intuition that something would happen, but decided not to mess with nature. When working on my testimony on blogger, the orange letter B with an arrow pointing in the direction of the web gave me the instinct to look at that moment another bee got caught, and I also placed it under a leaf in the pot next to the other one.

It would take pages to describe, but it’s essentially that kind of perfect timing but with everything all day - Much of it mitigating the effects of warfare.  I feel like a student being taught,

Learning how to share and when…

And then, also in the process you realize the aspects of your own sinful nature - I like it to being pulled out of the constructs that society has tried to glue people in to.

The gift of prophecy can be kind of lonely, because when following God very closely, it just happens unintentionally - it creates a divide because whatever is going on inside of people stirs reactions in them - so you get a lot of negativity sort of coming out of left field… like it isn’t instigated. Spiritual pushback happens, but it’s confusing because you’re just a little human trying to follow the God that you love.

And then, in the process of explaining what you’ve discovered, there’s also your own reactions in the face of another person’s reactions that you have to try to learn how to work through from a biblical standpoint and it can be difficult to do.

I spend a lot of time checking the accuracy of what I’m getting to make sure that it is what God wants, and still struggle with resistance to some old ways of being - from my experience, although I’m sure that everybody has a different way that they come to their faith - God came to me through letting go of the fear of death and feeling gratitude for looking at an image while I appreciating music and the letting go of the fear along with a few previous months of self introspection, and then the gratitude sort of created like a meeting in the middle.

And then, after that was six years of confusion following the wrong things. And only when I came to the end of myself again was I able to reach out to Him, and that’s when I started developing a connection with Jesus. But it was out of illness and desperation, and a crack in the psyche. 
 

But as I grow more, I realize that it was all planned to go this way anyways.  From the time I was a kid until now through the various things in nature - and the body of Christ. So many people and they’re coming and going have offered me answers to prayers.  So there’s a witnessing of it, but you see that everybody else is just as important and involved in this nuance sometimes they just aren’t aware.  A very beautiful interconnection between many things. 
 

James Earl Jones recently died, I was listening to the Bible with his voice, but felt insecure - I’m still learning discernment - he died a few days later and I read that he was Catholic and I felt really bad for being anxious and was looking through his Wikipedia and it said - don’t you want to be free? Next to a photo of him in his youth.

I go to look at my Bible and in my notes on the page that I turned to it says “accept your freedom”.

I like the saying about that even if prophecy is removed that love always stays - and I read that last night when going through this thread and right after my alarm went off and was 8 o’clock! And then I looked through my roster and the picture says Jesus loves you!

I think that’s the biggest thing to remember is that the path is always through really loving God a whole lot and allowing your heart to open and just to let that love grow.

“And He said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.” 🕊️ 

- Luke 7:50 KJV

Thank you Lord!

Edited September 12, 2024 by SeedofSource

[enoob57]

On 4/18/2024 at 6:45 PM, Starise said:

The full canon of scripture does not let us know as we are known.

2 Timothy 3:15 (KJV)

[15] And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

[17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

I don't see lacking in anything in this life according to this ...

[enoob57]

On 4/19/2024 at 8:31 AM, Starise said:

Well, when you can show me where this all stopped I'll be in agreement.

well, I showed you where God says Scripture is sufficient 'thoroughly furnished' for all things in this life 2Tim 3:15-17... looking for further need of present prophecy seems to say other?

[Starise]

5 hours ago, enoob57 said:

well, I showed you where God says Scripture is sufficient 'thoroughly furnished' for all things in this life 2Tim 3:15-17... looking for further need of present prophecy seems to say other?

Knowing as one is known .vs having ‘sufficient’ knowledge are quite different wouldn’t you agree?

 

[Starise]

11 hours ago, SeedofSource said:

I have the gift of prophecy, it’s still being honed. Started with an illness in 2016 and God opened those doors for me. Opened other things, but He’s closing them. I met God, but didn’t know - Other things led me away, all the while, trying to find Him again - But I guess there’s a lot of mimicry. Things can come to you and promise things in a certain way and then it turns out to be something else.
You see more like some of the effects of what is happening, and it’s not always clear.

I rely on God a lot because I recognize my weaknesses very clearly and only the holy Trinity is really able to do anything. To me it feels like getting a lot of different puzzle pieces and you aren’t entirely sure of the picture that you’re making you just get a piece and it often fits together very cohesively with the Word, but sometimes there is inaccuracy do to my own human nature and I have to pray and refine that.

An example of that would be that I had a honeybee fly into a spiderweb and pulled it out and buried it near a plant that has a rock with a painted Christian cross in the soil. The next week, I noticed a spiderweb on the lemon balm. And had an intuition that something would happen, but decided not to mess with nature. When working on my testimony on blogger, the orange letter B with an arrow pointing in the direction of the web gave me the instinct to look at that moment another bee got caught, and I also placed it under a leaf in the pot next to the other one.

It would take pages to describe, but it’s essentially that kind of perfect timing but with everything all day - Much of it mitigating the effects of warfare.  I feel like a student being taught,

Learning how to share and when…

And then, also in the process you realize the aspects of your own sinful nature - I like it to being pulled out of the constructs that society has tried to glue people in to.

The gift of prophecy can be kind of lonely, because when following God very closely, it just happens unintentionally - it creates a divide because whatever is going on inside of people stirs reactions in them - so you get a lot of negativity sort of coming out of left field… like it isn’t instigated. Spiritual pushback happens, but it’s confusing because you’re just a little human trying to follow the God that you love.

And then, in the process of explaining what you’ve discovered, there’s also your own reactions in the face of another person’s reactions that you have to try to learn how to work through from a biblical standpoint and it can be difficult to do.

I spend a lot of time checking the accuracy of what I’m getting to make sure that it is what God wants, and still struggle with resistance to some old ways of being - from my experience, although I’m sure that everybody has a different way that they come to their faith - God came to me through letting go of the fear of death and feeling gratitude for looking at an image while I appreciating music and the letting go of the fear along with a few previous months of self introspection, and then the gratitude sort of created like a meeting in the middle.

And then, after that was six years of confusion following the wrong things. And only when I came to the end of myself again was I able to reach out to Him, and that’s when I started developing a connection with Jesus. But it was out of illness and desperation, and a crack in the psyche. 
 

But as I grow more, I realize that it was all planned to go this way anyways.  From the time I was a kid until now through the various things in nature - and the body of Christ. So many people and they’re coming and going have offered me answers to prayers.  So there’s a witnessing of it, but you see that everybody else is just as important and involved in this nuance sometimes they just aren’t aware.  A very beautiful interconnection between many things. 
 

James Earl Jones recently died, I was listening to the Bible with his voice, but felt insecure - I’m still learning discernment - he died a few days later and I read that he was Catholic and I felt really bad for being anxious and was looking through his Wikipedia and it said - don’t you want to be free? Next to a photo of him in his youth.

I go to look at my Bible and in my notes on the page that I turned to it says “accept your freedom”.

I like the saying about that even if prophecy is removed that love always stays - and I read that last night when going through this thread and right after my alarm went off and was 8 o’clock! And then I looked through my roster and the picture says Jesus loves you!

I think that’s the biggest thing to remember is that the path is always through really loving God a whole lot and allowing your heart to open and just to let that love grow.

“And He said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.” 🕊️ 

- Luke 7:50 KJV

Thank you Lord!

Thanks for sharing. This can be a difficult gift sometimes. There is a lot of variation. I have told people words God gave me for them. Some more mundane and some downright bizarre. One of the last things I saw was a word I gave to an almost complete stranger. I am not sure of the outcome. They received it and at the time it mean’t nothing, but maybe over time it will.

I have gone through a dry spell recently so I’m not the type that gets these things all the time. A few weeks ago I had a dream that I’m sure was only intended for me. The subject was about someone else and I know it wasn’t to be told. 

 The Holy Spirit might show us a thing but then we use the information in a way not intended. I think I’ve been guilty of that. If you don’t know what to do with something. Do nothing.

Other times I just get these impressions about a given situation. I was passing out bibles at a local university with the Gideons yesterday. As I looked at those students God showed me how they will all be old before you know it. I mean, that isn’t really a secret, but the thought struck me that they were all headed to judgement with only the illusion that they had everything under control, many of them defiant to God. It was as if before you know it, they are all adults grappling with life. There is a real problem when our devices are now a part of what we are. They have blocked the world out in exchange for their empty man made worlds. Luckily some of this generation know exactly what’s going on. Many of them are wise to it.

[enoob57]

2 hours ago, Starise said:

Knowing as one is known .vs having ‘sufficient’ knowledge are quite different wouldn’t you agree?

 

sufficiency for this time would be more to the point...

[Marathoner]

There is no scriptural basis for cessationism. The gifts of the Spirit are for the edification and building up of the Body; arguments that seek to fashion mandarin oranges out of Granny Smith apples are superfluous. I have said this before, and it bears repeating for the sake of our readers:

The scriptures are collective which is to say, they address all throughout time and space. They are fit to instruct us all. 

The gifts of the Spirit are for here and now, for the edification and equipping of the saints for service while we walk in those works in Christ Jesus. We are created in Him to do these, yes? We are indeed.

Prophecy doesn't reveal anything "new" nor add to the scriptures, my friends. What is the gift of prophecy? Speaking those words which the Lord would have us speak. It is according to His will and purpose, not our own. 

 

[tatwo]

On 4/15/2024 at 5:52 PM, Starise said:

Maybe even more misunderstood than tongues generally speaking amongst mainline denominations.

Who would care to discuss this?

Prophecy...

I would…thanks for the invite Starise.

By revelation and corresponding life experiences in the Kingdom of God here on earth over the course of nearly 40 years I have learned that the foundation upon which…one is standing greatly influences a Christian’s belief…and by extension experience…which greatly contributes to the healthy growth and development of one’s “faith”…or shipwrecks it.

You mention mainline denominations…while I know there are differences between all of them…and I am including “all” denominations and church types…I have found and will contend that they are all based from “one particular foundation”…and are simply offshoots derived from the original source. As a result of much study, research, experience and revelation in the matter…I have seen similarities across the board…some are subtle some are obvious…the basics are always there.

Having said that…I am merely trying to point out that this “consistent foundational element” present in the traditional and institutional “church structure” inhibits the smooth integration of the spiritual leadership of the Holy Spirit and in some cases prohibits His movement altogether. It’s not that He…the Holy Spirit is in any way threatened or weakened by anything man does…it’s that He simply will not endorse the mixture of “Truth and error.”

This is largely the environment of the modern church in any flavor…as I said…I understand that there are differences and some “seem” better and may be…than others? However…if the life blood of the Kingdom of God is in any way relegated to anything but God Himself in the mind of men…this is and will continue to cause the current lack of manifestation of the person of the Lord in that house.

As one might expect this works towards rendering the church powerless due to the lack of His manifest presence (grace)…which initiates apostasy in that house due to unbelief. John the Baptist is recorded as have said…”And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.”

The diversities of gifts, ministries, and activities which are nothing less than the grace of God in action among His people…are the absolute manifestation and working of the Holy Spirit within His temple. They always operate as He desires in His house…if one does not see this…that should give one pause. If one does not believe this…well their challenge is obvious.

If He is in any way hindered via unbelief…or represented in any other fashion than which He Himself is…the flow of His power, presence, grace and love is rejected and He will not assemble His Body in that environment…yet the “church” carries on. This is very likely the cause of the confusion, reluctance and lack of operation surrounding the grace (gifts) of the Lord in the church...including prophecy.

I can assure you of this…though the Body of Christ is yet “maturing” under the Holy Spirit’s Fathering…the sons of God are on their way to a perfection that has already been guaranteed by God. The openly manifested flow of all that the Holy Spirit desires in the assembly of His house or temple among His sons…is the river of life that flows directly from the throne of eternal God Himself today…this is the bread of life and our daily bread. To think otherwise is an exercise in “unbelief.”

The result of the + or – 2000 years of the Holy Spirits assembling of the living temple of God on earth is being revealed as you read this. It is by the will of the Lord...which is in part facilitating the apostasy in its current process…that the Body of Christ will the mature to the full stature of the Lord Yahshua Himself…Christ will be revealed…glorious Head and radiant Body.

If any of you are in a “religious organization…church” where the manifest presence of the living God is in any way restricted, misinterpreted or carnally questioned…verses flowing in abundance here in the end of this age…be warned…that is a house steeped in unbelief.

The Kingdom of God flows due to the grace (operation…gifts) of the Holy Spirit and always has…He rules in His house. At this point in our eschatology which is nearing the full maturity of the son of God…all the gifts of the Holy Spirit are operating and functioning without fail…though not quite yet at the stature that can represent the fullness of Christ Himself…this is however…emerging.

This is a spiritual man…not readily visible to the mere physical eye. He however…is here…He is alive and clothed in the glory of God…like Adam once was.

At this point…we are to understand and to have become “integrated or assembled” into the living Body of Christ as the maturing spiritual adult…as...the unique and divinely intentioned “part” we were predestined in Christ to fulfill. Most aren't aware of this and that adds to the churches dysfunction.

Being “saved” for the sole purpose of “going to heaven when you die or in rapture” was never the Truth…No we were “saved” so that the Holy Spirit can begin the process of conforming us to Christ’s image and character…that is the living process of spiritual maturity that occurs in the spiritual house of God via the unending manifestation of His love, eternal power, grace, gifts, ministries and activities…as Paul wrote.

The “church” offers salvation for “the purpose” of going to heaven when one dies…or in the rapture…this all but negates the need and opportunity to be conformed to the “mature adult” likeness of Christ due to unbelief and the lack of the Holy Spirit’s manifest presence which is flowing with the abundance of His grace. This is what leads to confusion, ignorance, unbelief and a glaring lack of God’s eternal power.

As I said in the beginning…this is an issue of “foundation”…prophecy or to prophesy in the Kingdom of God is the constant flow of the “Word of God Himself.” As John said…”For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy”…it is the language of the Kingdom…without which you have church…not the Body of Christ.

Tatwo...:)

[Starise]

2 hours ago, tatwo said:

Prophecy...

I would…thanks for the invite Starise.

By revelation and corresponding life experiences in the Kingdom of God here on earth over the course of nearly 40 years I have learned that the foundation upon which…one is standing greatly influences a Christian’s belief…and by extension experience…which greatly contributes to the healthy growth and development of one’s “faith”…or shipwrecks it.

You mention mainline denominations…while I know there are differences between all of them…and I am including “all” denominations and church types…I have found and will contend that they are all based from “one particular foundation”…and are simply offshoots derived from the original source. As a result of much study, research, experience and revelation in the matter…I have seen similarities across the board…some are subtle some are obvious…the basics are always there.

Having said that…I am merely trying to point out that this “consistent foundational element” present in the traditional and institutional “church structure” inhibits the smooth integration of the spiritual leadership of the Holy Spirit and in some cases prohibits His movement altogether. It’s not that He…the Holy Spirit is in any way threatened or weakened by anything man does…it’s that He simply will not endorse the mixture of “Truth and error.”

This is largely the environment of the modern church in any flavor…as I said…I understand that there are differences and some “seem” better and may be…than others? However…if the life blood of the Kingdom of God is in any way relegated to anything but God Himself in the mind of men…this is and will continue to cause the current lack of manifestation of the person of the Lord in that house.

As one might expect this works towards rendering the church powerless due to the lack of His manifest presence (grace)…which initiates apostasy in that house due to unbelief. John the Baptist is recorded as have said…”And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.”

The diversities of gifts, ministries, and activities which are nothing less than the grace of God in action among His people…are the absolute manifestation and working of the Holy Spirit within His temple. They always operate as He desires in His house…if one does not see this…that should give one pause. If one does not believe this…well their challenge is obvious.

If He is in any way hindered via unbelief…or represented in any other fashion than which He Himself is…the flow of His power, presence, grace and love is rejected and He will not assemble His Body in that environment…yet the “church” carries on. This is very likely the cause of the confusion, reluctance and lack of operation surrounding the grace (gifts) of the Lord in the church...including prophecy.

I can assure you of this…though the Body of Christ is yet “maturing” under the Holy Spirit’s Fathering…the sons of God are on their way to a perfection that has already been guaranteed by God. The openly manifested flow of all that the Holy Spirit desires in the assembly of His house or temple among His sons…is the river of life that flows directly from the throne of eternal God Himself today…this is the bread of life and our daily bread. To think otherwise is an exercise in “unbelief.”

The result of the + or – 2000 years of the Holy Spirits assembling of the living temple of God on earth is being revealed as you read this. It is by the will of the Lord...which is in part facilitating the apostasy in its current process…that the Body of Christ will the mature to the full stature of the Lord Yahshua Himself…Christ will be revealed…glorious Head and radiant Body.

If any of you are in a “religious organization…church” where the manifest presence of the living God is in any way restricted, misinterpreted or carnally questioned…verses flowing in abundance here in the end of this age…be warned…that is a house steeped in unbelief.

The Kingdom of God flows due to the grace (operation…gifts) of the Holy Spirit and always has…He rules in His house. At this point in our eschatology which is nearing the full maturity of the son of God…all the gifts of the Holy Spirit are operating and functioning without fail…though not quite yet at the stature that can represent the fullness of Christ Himself…this is however…emerging.

This is a spiritual man…not readily visible to the mere physical eye. He however…is here…He is alive and clothed in the glory of God…like Adam once was.

At this point…we are to understand and to have become “integrated or assembled” into the living Body of Christ as the maturing spiritual adult…as...the unique and divinely intentioned “part” we were predestined in Christ to fulfill. Most aren't aware of this and that adds to the churches dysfunction.

Being “saved” for the sole purpose of “going to heaven when you die or in rapture” was never the Truth…No we were “saved” so that the Holy Spirit can begin the process of conforming us to Christ’s image and character…that is the living process of spiritual maturity that occurs in the spiritual house of God via the unending manifestation of His love, eternal power, grace, gifts, ministries and activities…as Paul wrote.

The “church” offers salvation for “the purpose” of going to heaven when one dies…or in the rapture…this all but negates the need and opportunity to be conformed to the “mature adult” likeness of Christ due to unbelief and the lack of the Holy Spirit’s manifest presence which is flowing with the abundance of His grace. This is what leads to confusion, ignorance, unbelief and a glaring lack of God’s eternal power.

As I said in the beginning…this is an issue of “foundation”…prophecy or to prophesy in the Kingdom of God is the constant flow of the “Word of God Himself.” As John said…”For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy”…it is the language of the Kingdom…without which you have church…not the Body of Christ.

Tatwo...:)

Thanks Tatwo,

I have looked at this similarly to a combination lock. If the tumblers don't line up the lock doesn't open, and I have seen and been in the types of churches you speak of.

To be more clear, these churches have maybe 80 or 90% of everything right, but then blantently either add things to their teachings that are not in the bible at all or they contort what is there to support a position that denomination holds which isn't biblical. 

It has been accurately said there are no perfect churches, but neither do I think it helps us grow if we are in a church accepting of obvious non biblical things.

This is where Satan is waging a war to make the less than acceptable suddenly be acceptable.Using leverage tactics such as public approval and putting those who agree against the bible in positions of authority. This has severely tipped the scales in a handul of the most common denominations.

The question then is, if the tumblers don't line up are they quenching the Spirit? You seem to be saying yes to that and I would agree.

 

[Michael37]

44 minutes ago, Starise said:

The question then is, if the tumblers don't line up are they quenching the Spirit?