Precedent Faith

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, WordSword said:

I'm only referring to the Books God keeps, which are written by Him prior to creation; "the books were opened: and another book was opened" (Rev 20:12).

 

Bellow is the scripture with the Bible version of Revelation 20:12 and not what you posted. Your comments are not from the scripture of Revelation 20:12. And if we click on the red scripture reference we do not get the scripture as posted below. We get some comments that are not the words in Revelation 20:12.

■ Rev 20:12  ESV And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done.

Edited June 5, 2024 by Your closest friendnt

[Your closest friendnt]

5 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Folk are free to believe all of the above, just as they are free not to, given the opportunity. This is due to the Divinely Predetermined element of human volition in Creation. Obviously the Omniscience of God means He foreknows what the outcomes of human volition will be.

Heb 4:11-13  Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.  (12)  For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.  (13)  And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.

The New Covenant is entirely New and it steers clear from the eye against an eye and a tooth against a tooth the way it was under the Law. So the question is; does the author of the above statement is warning the believers in Jesus Christ the heirs of the New Covenant who are standing in the Grace of God's in the New Covenant who are standing in the righteousness of Jesus Christ their forgiveness of sins in the Lord who has shed his own blood to bring the knew Covenant to people and the same Lord who was made the propritiation for their sins. Can someone pronounced the Judgement that was fit for the old Covenant upon the children of the New Covenant? Do the children of the New Covenant have the same Lord as the children of the old Covenant? Are their sins forgiven in the same way? Are the judgments in the old Covenant continue to apply upon the children of the New Covenant? Wondering? 

[enoob57]

3 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

The New Covenant is entirely New and it steers clear from the eye against an eye and a tooth against a tooth the way it was under the Law. So the question is; does the author of the above statement is warning the believers in Jesus Christ the heirs of the New Covenant who are standing in the Grace of God's in the New Covenant who are standing in the righteousness of Jesus Christ their forgiveness of sins in the Lord who has shed his own blood to bring the knew Covenant to people and the same Lord who was made the propritiation for their sins. Can someone pronounced the Judgement that was fit for the old Covenant upon the children of the New Covenant? Do the children of the New Covenant have the same Lord as the children of the old Covenant? Are their sins forgiven in the same way? Are the judgments in the old Covenant continue to apply upon the children of the New Covenant? Wondering? 

brother... God said it much more succinctly

Romans 8:31 (KJV)

[31] What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

 

[Your closest friendnt]

5 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

brother... God said it much more succinctly

Romans 8:31 (KJV)

[31] What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

 

 

I need a little more to connect what you want to say, please. 

[enoob57]

just a comment surrounding what you posted in a Bible verse

[WordSword]

5 hours ago, farouk said:

I'm reminded of Psalm 139.16: "Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them."

Good applicable passage!

[WordSword]

4 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Bellow is the scripture with the Bible version of Revelation 20:12 and not what you posted. Your comments are not from the scripture of Revelation 20:12. And if we click on the red scripture reference we do not get the scripture as posted below. We get some comments that are not the words in Revelation 20:12.

■ Rev 20:12  ESV And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done.

You merely used a different translation than I used.

[Michael37]

4 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

The New Covenant is entirely New and it steers clear from the eye against an eye and a tooth against a tooth the way it was under the Law. So the question is; does the author of the above statement is warning the believers in Jesus Christ the heirs of the New Covenant who are standing in the Grace of God's in the New Covenant who are standing in the righteousness of Jesus Christ their forgiveness of sins in the Lord who has shed his own blood to bring the knew Covenant to people and the same Lord who was made the propritiation for their sins. Can someone pronounced the Judgement that was fit for the old Covenant upon the children of the New Covenant? Do the children of the New Covenant have the same Lord as the children of the old Covenant? Are their sins forgiven in the same way? Are the judgments in the old Covenant continue to apply upon the children of the New Covenant? Wondering? 

The Book of Hebrews addresses the issues you raise, @Your closest friendnt, and in both Old and New Testament the one essential requirement for receiving God's Grace is FAITH.

Grace isn't goin' where faith isn't growin'.

 Rom 5:1-2  Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,  (2)  through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, Michael37 said:

The Book of Hebrews addresses the issues you raise, @Your closest friendnt, and in both Old and New Testament the one essential requirement for receiving God's Grace is FAITH.

Grace isn't goin' where faith isn't growin'.

 Rom 5:1-2  Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,  (2)  through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

I have to defer and I do not want to continue this discussion unless you are willing to be examined in what you just posted. 

In the Old Covenant we do not have the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We do not have the blood of Jesus Christ. The New Covenant is superior to the Old Covenant. The New Testament is superior to the Old Testament. What we did not have in the Old Covenant we have in the New Covenant. Nothing from the Old Covenant is in the New Covenant. 

It's like a Garment we take off the old one and we put on the new one. 

[Michael37]

26 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

I have to defer and I do not want to continue this discussion unless you are willing to be examined in what you just posted. 

In the Old Covenant we do not have the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We do not have the blood of Jesus Christ. The New Covenant is superior to the Old Covenant. The New Testament is superior to the Old Testament. What we did not have in the Old Covenant we have in the New Covenant. Nothing from the Old Covenant is in the New Covenant. 

It's like a Garment we take off the old one and we put on the new one. 

Not sure where you were coming from or where you are going with your comments, but the Hebrews 11 Faith Hall of Fame in the NT contains the names of characters in the OT.

The OT is full of signposts pointing forward to Christ, and the NT is full of praises rejoicing in His First Advent, and prophecies revealing the imminency of His Second Advent.

Gal 4:1-7  Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differs nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;  (2)  But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.  (3)  Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:  (4)  But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,  (5)  To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.  (6)  And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.  (7)  Wherefore you are no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.