Why Are There So Many Denominations In The Church

[RdJ]

15 hours ago, Charlie1988 said:

If more Churches obeyed Gods instructions on, how He wants to be served and worshiped, I would visit them as well and have fellowship with them. But the sad reality is the vast majority are focused on serving themselves and their personal agendas. 

Some of the Churches I visited when I was Church shopping, were more like a rock concert that a Church service. I used to come home with my ears ringing from the loud distorted cheap and amateur rock band. I wounder if God would accept that kind of self indulgent worship, I couldn't stand it so I assume God would be there either. 

Some of my friends attend Churches which are man centered, they accuse me of being judgmental when I say I don't believe they are pleasing to the Lord. Our Pastor regularly reminds us our services that we are here to worship and it's all about Him and for Him.    

I saw a video from an American pentecostal pastor. He said that even pentecostal pastors in that city were in Freemasonry and wore their ring. I posted that on a small forum and a guy got mad. Turned out he was a mason too.

[farouk]

PS: Pressed the wrong key; I of course meant Matthew 28 for the Great Commission.

[farouk]

29 minutes ago, RdJ said:

I saw a video from an American pentecostal pastor. He said that even pentecostal pastors in that city were in Freemasonry and wore their ring. I posted that on a small forum and a guy got mad. Turned out he was a mason too.

@RdJ Some really, really strict churches object to rings altogether. I guess it really depends on what the ring may signify, rather than the mere existence of a ring.

[Mr. M]

38 minutes ago, RdJ said:

I saw a video from an American pentecostal pastor. He said that even pentecostal pastors in that city were in Freemasonry and wore their ring. I posted that on a small forum and a guy got mad. Turned out he was a mason too.

This is why I reject the notion that the founding fathers were led by the Spirit. Only 9 of the 56 signatories of the declaration were verified freemasons, but some of the most influential. 

Of the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence, nine were Freemasons with verifiable records of association. Among them were:

 

 

1. William Ellery from Rhode Island, who attended St. John’s Lodge of Boston in 1748¹.

 

 

2. Benjamin Franklin, the American statesman, scientist, and author, who became the Grand Master of Pennsylvania in 1734¹.

 

 

3. George Washington, who played a pivotal role in the American Revolution and was a prominent Mason².

 

 

4. Paul Revere, known for his midnight ride, also led a Massachusetts Masonic chapter³.

 

 

5. John Hancock, famous for his bold signature on the Declaration of Independence, was also a Mason¹.

 

 

6. James Monroe, another Founding Father, was part of the fraternal order as well².

These Masonic connections highlight the influence of Freemasonry during the founding of the United States. 🇺🇸🔍

Edited June 24, 2024 by Mr. M

[RdJ]

18 minutes ago, farouk said:

@RdJ Some really, really strict churches object to rings altogether. I guess it really depends on what the ring may signify, rather than the mere existence of a ring.

He didn't mean a normal ring, but the masonic ring as a sign that they're a freemason. No wonder all the craziness came in the charismatic church.

[RdJ]

On 6/23/2024 at 3:55 AM, Charlie1988 said:

 

What we have after the Apostles is Demons performing miracles of healing in order to destroy the persons soul in hell. What does it profit to gain health and wealth, only to lose your soul. 

The Devil performs signs and wonders, to get you away from the Gospel and to trust in the miracles He performs. The Devil is all about deception, He copies everything God does but with the intent to take your soul. 

That exists too yes and you have to really watch out with that. In the 90s a guy with a demon kick out ministry came to Holland and a lot of evangelical leaders were naive and had no clue. You just assume it's also from God. Well it wasn't. My ex went there. I wanted to join, but he wouldn't let me. Luckily. It was insane. They supposedly cut off the arms and legs of demons and other totally crazy stuff. There were some leaders who warned against it. People fell from their faith afterwards. My ex had to be set free from a demon because he went there. There was a gigantic car crash nearby. He thought because they were summoning demons. So the reformed church is safe. You won't ever get that kind of craziness, but they also miss out on good stuff.

Edited June 24, 2024 by RdJ

[Neighbor]

And that "folks" is why there are so many denominations; the human judgements of individuals about other individuals.

 

 

[Charlie1988]

14 hours ago, warrior12 said:

Ok, I asked a question earlier as to explain the above. You did reply, but I did not quite get the points you made, as it was mainly of  scripture.  

So I will ask it in this manner.   Why do you think that your local church is the correct way of worship and other churches that plays music ect, is not pleasing to God.  

Do you have healing and miracles at your church ?. These are just question I truly want to gain an understanding of as I am understanding that your church executes the biblical model.  Do the women remain silent in the Church service to ?. 

I believe that my Church is correct because it is based on the Apostolic Church model. We tick every box, on Gods list of requirements to validate a local Church as being Biblically correct and pleasing to God. 

Our approach to the life of the Church is all about obedience and service to God. Our aim is not to entertain our members and visitors with seeker friendly messages and entertainment. 

There are more than enough scriptures in the Bible which give us clear instruction on what constitutes a Biblically correct Church. If a Church doesn't meet Gods requirements, then God doesn't bless that Church and it is dead. 

We believe that the Old and New Testament is the inspired and infallible Word of God, and the only authoritative rule for faith and practice.

• 2 Tim 3:15-17; Rom 15:4; 2 Peter 1:19-21.

 We believe that the God of the Scriptures is the only true and living God. He is one God who co-exists in three persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
• Exodus 20:1-5; 1 Cor 8:4-6; 1 John 5:7-8; Matt 28:19.

 We believe that in six days God created all things which exist and on the seventh He rested.
• Gen 1-2:2; Exodus 31:14.

 We believe that God is sovereign in all things. In His infinite wisdom and power He directs the affairs of humanity.
• Ps 110:3; Prov 21:1; Is 45:7; Amos 3:6.

 We believe that God created Adam and Eve without sin. He permitted sin to enter the world through a voluntary act of their disobedience.
• Gen 2:16,17; Rom 5:12.

 We believe that God in eternity, before creation, determined to save His chosen people, to deliver them from the power and penalty of sin.
• Matt 25:34; Eph 1:4; Rom 8:29,30.

 We believe that Jesus Christ is the mediator of God’s covenant. Being both fully God and fully man He was able to secure the redemption of God’s elect by dying on their behalf.
• Eph 1:22,23; 1 Tim 2:5,6; Heb 2:16-18; 4:14-16; 9:14,15.

 We believe that the Church is made up of those who have exercised faith in Jesus Christ and repentance toward God.
• Acts 2:38; Acts 8:37; Acts 20:21.

 We believe that baptism and the Lord’s Supper are the only two ordinances given by Christ to His Church.
• 1 Cor 11:23-31; Acts 20:7; Acts 2:41; Acts 16:31-34.

 We believe that the mandate of the Church is to make disciples of all nations.
• Matt 28:19,20; 1 Cor 1:18-25; Col 1:28; 2 Tim 4:2.

 We believe that God has appointed two offices in the Church, namely elders and deacons.
• Acts 6:1-7; 1 Tim 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-9.

 We believe it is God’s will for Christians to assemble together in local congregations on the Lord’s Day (Sunday), to worship Him and encourage one another according to the Scriptural pattern.
• Is 58:13; Ecc 5:1,2; Acts 2:42; 20:7; Heb 10:24,25.

 We believe that as the people of God we have a responsibility to show benevolence to all men, but especially to assist other Churches committed to the same Scriptural truths and principles.
• Acts 11:19-24; Gal 6:10; Phil 4:10,14.

 We believe in the literal return of Jesus Christ at which time He will judge the nations. The redeemed will be with Him forever in the new heavens and the new earth, the ungodly cast into hell for eternity.

• Matt 25:31-46; Acts 1:11; 1Thes 4:18; 2 Peter 3:1-13

 

[Charlie1988]

13 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Ceasationists make that claim, but the truth is that while God has been speaking to individuals for 2000 years, not all have an ear to listen.

In 1981 the Lord Jesus Christ appeared to me and spoke, and I continue to hear Him.

 

I don't find anything in the Bible to support the notion that Jesus would appear and speak to anyone, after His ascension to heaven. I do find warnings about such claims, which say beware of spirits who claim to be from God.

Jesus said He was ascending back to heaven and He left us His comforter. He never gave any indication that He would make personal visits to anyone. So I personally can't accept you claim, that Jesus appeared to you and spoke to you.

I believe your encounter may have been with the Holy Spirit and not Jesus Himself.   

[Neighbor]

I am "safe" in any environment on earth.

Why I was even safe the night I walked into the pitch black night in the back alleyways of Nassau and was grabbed, picked up off the ground by the biggest bear hugging human I ever met. Who then snatched me through a doorway, sat me down on a tiny metal folding chair, and handed me a hymnal book in Creole.

Never sang  in Creole before, but did that night. I think it was "Amazing Grace".