I can do whatever and there is No Condemnation in Christ!

[Vine Abider]

I've been closely considering this over the last day . . . so is this true, what it says in Romans 8:1, that there is zero condemnation to those in Christ? * Absolutely!  My penalty for sin is 100% paid by the incredible sacrificial death of Christ!  Now I have complete freedom from receiving even the tiniest condemnation for any sin I commit.  Because of His exceedingly-over-the-top substitutionary death for my sin, I'm totally free to choose without any fear of retribution for sin from God!

Therefore if God doesn't condemn me, who can? (see Rom 8:31-39) Should I condemn myself if God doesn't?  No, this is His total love and grace to me and I must agree with His assessment!  As the pop song says, "I'm free to do what I want, any old time" and God looks at me as righteous in Christ. This is hard for the old legalistic man to swallow, but there it is . . .

And Paul says this too: "All thing are lawful (lit. permitted - it is a right) for me!" (1 Cor 10:23) Wow! 

However, does that mean there are no consequences for sinning and doing whatever I want?  No, there are consequences.  As Paul goes on to say in that above verse, "But not all things are profitable."

What!? I can do whatever I want, but there might not be profit for what I do?!  Yes, that is the case.

So, there's no condemnation for sin and Father always loves us unconditionally (as His children), but what if we are not following Him and living by Christ?  Here are what I see as answers to that question:

1. We will not be profitable in this life

2. His indwelling Spirit will convict & discipline us (as children)

3. His love will (hopefully) constrain us

4. Any sin may have seen or unseen consequences upon us and/or others, and our relationship with God (from our side)

5. Christians will be held accountable for our our works (not condemned for sin) at the Bema judgment - rewards or loss

Therefore while we do have total and complete freedom to choose to do whatever we want, and we cannot get away from God's love and grace, there may be serious consequences still.  As a brother I know likes to say, "Don't play around with sin and think there are no consequences!"

"For you have been bought for a price: therefore glorify God in your body."

1 Cor 6:20
 

* what follows in that verse (Romans 8:1) in a few translations, "to those who walk not according to the flesh, but according to the spirit" is not in original texts (but is rather only stated in verse 4 in earliest manuscripts & therefore most translations).

[D. Adrien]

17 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

I've been closely considering this over the last day . . . so is this true, what it says in Romans 8:1, that there is zero condemnation to those in Christ? * Absolutely!  My penalty for sin is 100% paid by the incredible sacrificial death of Christ!  Now I have complete freedom from receiving even the tiniest condemnation for any sin I commit.  Because of His exceedingly-over-the-top substitutionary death for my sin, I'm totally free to choose without any fear of retribution for sin from God!

Therefore if God doesn't condemn me, who can? (see Rom 8:31-39) Should I condemn myself if God doesn't?  No, this is His total love and grace to me and I must agree with His assessment!  As the pop song says, "I'm free to do what I want, any old time" and God looks at me as righteous in Christ. This is hard for the old legalistic man to swallow, but there it is . . .

And Paul says this too: "All thing are lawful (lit. permitted - it is a right) for me!" (1 Cor 10:23) Wow! 

However, does that mean there are no consequences for sinning and doing whatever I want?  No, there are consequences.  As Paul goes on to say in that above verse, "But not all things are profitable."

What!? I can do whatever I want, but there might not be profit for what I do?!  Yes, that is the case.

So, there's no condemnation for sin and Father always loves us unconditionally (as His children), but what if we are not following Him and living by Christ?  Here are what I see as answers to that question:

1. We will not be profitable in this life

2. His indwelling Spirit will convict & discipline us (as children)

3. His love will (hopefully) constrain us

4. The sin may have seen or unseen consequences upon us and/or others, and our relationship with God (from our side)

5. We will be held accountable for our our works (not condemned for sin)  in at the Bema judgment - rewards or loss

Therefore while we do have total and complete freedom to choose to do whatever we want, and we cannot get away from God's love and grace, there are serious consequences still.  As I brother I know said, "Don't play with sin and think there are never any consequences!"

"For you have been bought for a price: therefore glorify God in your body."

1 Cor 6:20
 

* what follows in that verse (Romans 8:1) in a few translations, "to those who walk not according to the flesh, but according to the spirit" is not in original texts.

How do you reconcile your post with the following?

Mat.7:21-23

I Never Knew You

21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

[Truswell]

19 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

I've been closely considering this over the last day . . . so is this true, what it says in Romans 8:1, that there is zero condemnation to those in Christ? * Absolutely!  My penalty for sin is 100% paid by the incredible sacrificial death of Christ!  Now I have complete freedom from receiving even the tiniest condemnation for any sin I commit.  Because of His exceedingly-over-the-top substitutionary death for my sin, I'm totally free to choose without any fear of retribution for sin from God!

Therefore if God doesn't condemn me, who can? (see Rom 8:31-39) Should I condemn myself if God doesn't?  No, this is His total love and grace to me and I must agree with His assessment!  As the pop song says, "I'm free to do what I want, any old time" and God looks at me as righteous in Christ. This is hard for the old legalistic man to swallow, but there it is . . .

And Paul says this too: "All thing are lawful (lit. permitted - it is a right) for me!" (1 Cor 10:23) Wow! 

However, does that mean there are no consequences for sinning and doing whatever I want?  No, there are consequences.  As Paul goes on to say in that above verse, "But not all things are profitable."

What!? I can do whatever I want, but there might not be profit for what I do?!  Yes, that is the case.

So, there's no condemnation for sin and Father always loves us unconditionally (as His children), but what if we are not following Him and living by Christ?  Here are what I see as answers to that question:

1. We will not be profitable in this life

2. His indwelling Spirit will convict & discipline us (as children)

3. His love will (hopefully) constrain us

4. The sin may have seen or unseen consequences upon us and/or others, and our relationship with God (from our side)

5. We will be held accountable for our our works (not condemned for sin)  in at the Bema judgment - rewards or loss

Therefore while we do have total and complete freedom to choose to do whatever we want, and we cannot get away from God's love and grace, there are serious consequences still.  As I brother I know said, "Don't play with sin and think there are never any consequences!"

"For you have been bought for a price: therefore glorify God in your body."

1 Cor 6:20
 

* what follows in that verse (Romans 8:1) in a few translations, "to those who walk not according to the flesh, but according to the spirit" is not in original texts.

 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.  (Rom 8:1)

Very true, providing we follow Jesus all the days of our life, but there is no repentance for the backslider.

 

[Vine Abider]

19 minutes ago, Truswell said:

 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.  (Rom 8:1)

Very true, providing we follow Jesus all the days of our life, but there is no repentance for the backslider.

 

As noted in the OP (see asterisk), the last part of that verse is only included in the KJV and very few other translations, because it is not in older texts.

[Vine Abider]

27 minutes ago, D. Adrien said:

How do you reconcile your post with the following?

Mat.7:21-23

I Never Knew You

21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

Already addressed in OP - there will be consequences, just not condemnation from God. I see the kingdom as a 1000 year reward, which does not equate to eternity. 

[D. Adrien]

20 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

Already addressed in OP - there will be consequences, just not condemnation from God. I see the kingdom as a 1000 year reward, which does not equate to eternity. 

Vine Abider, am I right to assume that you have no fear of God?

Gal.6: 7-8

Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. 8For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

[Vine Abider]

6 minutes ago, D. Adrien said:

Vine Abider, am I right to assume that you have no fear of God?

Gal.6: 7-8

Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. 8For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

Not correct.  While "perfect love casts out all fear, as fear involves torment," I have fear/respect of accountability related to the Bema judgement.

[Truswell]

41 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

As noted in the OP (see asterisk), the last part of that verse is only included in the KJV and very few other translations, because it is not in older texts.

 Quote. "to those who walk not according to the flesh, but according to the spirit" is not in original texts.

But even so, it is true. 

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[Stewardofthemystery]

1 hour ago, Vine Abider said:

Now I have complete freedom from receiving even the tiniest condemnation for any sin I commit. 
 

 

Because of His exceedingly-over-the-top substitutionary death for my sin, I'm totally free to choose without any fear of retribution for sin from God!

Therefore if God doesn't condemn me, who can? (see Rom 8:31-39) Should I condemn myself if God doesn't?  No, this is His total love and grace to me and I must agree with His assessment!  As the pop song says, "I'm free to do what I want, any old time" and God looks at me as righteous in Christ. This is hard for the old legalistic man to swallow, but there it is . . .

And Paul says this too: "All thing are lawful (lit. permitted - it is a right) for me!" (1 Cor 10:23) Wow! 

However, does that mean there are no consequences for sinning and doing whatever I want?  No, there are consequences.  As Paul goes on to say in that above verse, "But not all things are profitable."

What!? I can do whatever I want, but there might not be profit for what I do?!  Yes, that is the case.

So, there's no condemnation for sin and Father always loves us unconditionally (as His children), but what if we are not following Him and living by Christ?  Here are what I see as answers to that question:

1. We will not be profitable in this life

2. His indwelling Spirit will convict & discipline us (as children)

3. His love will (hopefully) constrain us

4. Any sin may have seen or unseen consequences upon us and/or others, and our relationship with God (from our side)

5. Christians will be held accountable for our our works (not condemned for sin) at the Bema judgment - rewards or loss

Therefore while we do have total and complete freedom to choose to do whatever we want, and we cannot get away from God's love and grace, there may be serious consequences still.  As I brother I know said, "Don't play around with sin and think there are no consequences!"

"For you have been bought for a price: therefore glorify God in your body."

1 Cor 6:20
 

* what follows in that verse (Romans 8:1) in a few translations, "to those who walk not according to the flesh, but according to the spirit" is not in original texts.

Somebody has drunk the Kool aid of the hyper grace doctrine.🫤

If you are living in sin you are NOT in Christ.

1 John 3:9

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

 

[Vine Abider]

20 minutes ago, Truswell said:

 Quote. "to those who walk not according to the flesh, but according to the spirit" is not in original texts.

But even so, it is true. 

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So if we are in Christ, but walking in the flesh, there is condemnation from God?