“For Your Good”

[farouk]

On 9/27/2024 at 1:28 PM, Christine Swan said:

Indeed. I lived this out some years ago and its still fresh in my mind, like it happened yesterday. I'll never forget the blessing He has done for me and my marriage. 

Hi @Christine Swan Isaiah 48.10 is a good verse: "Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction."

[Christine Swan]

1 minute ago, farouk said:

Hi @Christine Swan Isaiah 48.10 is a good verse: "Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction."

Thank you for that verse. 😄

The reward is always at the end. I couldn't see the reward then, but I'm so glad I followed what God had for me. I am so thankful! ♥️

[farouk]

1 minute ago, Christine Swan said:

Thank you for that verse. 😄

The reward is always at the end. I couldn't see the reward then, but I'm so glad I followed what God had for me. I am so thankful! ♥️

YW, @Christine Swan

Psalm 40.2-3 is a similar passage:

"He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings.

³ And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the Lord."

[Gracejj]

I agree with your post. Meanwhile, I also believe that for some people sometimes its difficult to see those life's struggles and circumstances from the lense of that Scripture when we are in the midst of all trials. But I guess thats where Faith & Trust comes to play. 

Many times we may not understand  how this is possibly going to work out for our good? Why me? Why not just stop all of this altogether? We try to reason and understand it through our own strength and understanding but it doesn't make sense for us to go through all these especially when we love God. But i learned that during these moments when nothing makes sense to us, the only and perhaps most important thing we can do is just Be Still and at the same time walk in the Obedience to God and His word, even if we never got the answers He will help us overcome and move forward in His path. 

 

Edited October 4, 2024 by Gracejj
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[farouk]

4 minutes ago, Gracejj said:

I agree with your post. Meanwhile, I also believe that for some people sometimes its difficult to see those life's struggles and circumstances from the lense of that Scripture when we are in the midst of all trials. But I guess thats where Faith & Trust comes to play. 

Many times we may not understand  how this is possibly going to work out for our good? Why me? Why not just stop all of this altogether? We try to reason and understand it through our own strength and understanding but it doesn't make sense for us to go through all these especially when we love God. But i learned that during these moments when nothing makes sense to us, the only and perhaps most important thing we can do is just be still and at the sane time walk in the Obedience to God and His word, even if we never got the answers He will help us overcome and move forward in His path. 

 

Hi @Gracejj This indeed is why the Scriptures are so seaching; so rich:

" For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." (Hebrews 4.12)

[Gracejj]

2 minutes ago, farouk said:

Hi @Gracejj This indeed is why the Scriptures are so seaching; so rich:

" For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." (Hebrews 4.12)

Indeed.🙏

[WordSword]

3 hours ago, farouk said:

Hi @WordSword Despite tribulations, the Lord is with His people:

"These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." (John 16.33)

Amen, good passage! I believe we learn the most from God through our trials.

[TheBlade]

On 9/27/2024 at 8:25 AM, WordSword said:

As a Christian, do you believe that “All things work together for good to those who love God” (Ro 8:28). This means that no matter what occurs in your life, God is using it for your benefit. The primary issue in a believer’s life is always that which concerns the strengthening of one’s faith! One way or another, even when we do not see it “working,” God causes it to be an advantage “to” us.

If you’re reborn, there’s nothing that you have to allow to “trouble” you (Jn 14:1, 27), because of the Ro 8:28 promise. What we may see as a problem is in reality for your “good.” Thus there is much truth in the phrase, "it’s all good”—if you’re saved. Regardless of what transpires in the life of a believer, it will truly be a benefit in one fashion or another. Even if we think God only keeps this promise when we are good, He still honors what He has said—it’s His Word; and with God, He always sees believers as “good,” because He knows they always want to “please” Him, as He “works” this in them.

The Father uses everything to teach believers His desires for them. All things are lessons and transpire according to how God wants them to construe to us. We must understand that this “promise” is to all who are saved, regardless of one’s level of maturity in Christ. It’s just a matter of time when a believer matures in Him (Eph 4:15), as God is always causing the believer to “will and to do of His good pleasure” (Phl 2:13).

Believers can see everything as blessings, because God ensures they receive benefit from everything in His way—“For all things are for your sakes” (2Co 4:15).  

NC
 

I am not the best speaker writer so try to see through the mistakes please.. "to those who are the called according to His purpose." What was being said before vs 28? Then we need to remember there were no chapters or verses when this was written we added them. We know with out faith we can not please Him. It seems unless I am reading it wrong that some are looking/applying this to everything that happens in our life's in some way or form  and God is working it for out Good? He can yes but is He? Its as if we have no say in this and He is going to do that no matter what we do or say or believe.  What was said before all this.. oh is huge and then to leave out "to those who are called according to His purpose". Now my guess is we all will jump on part of this and say  "to those" means all of us. To those.. who are "those who are called"? Being part of and in ministry .. well most don't answer that call. 

Now understand I am not saying this looking at your life since I cannot know it. So many times in my life when some kind of trouble came, if I did nothing but just blindly said "oh God is working this for my good" and that's all I did.. saying that would be a lie. God didn't cause it to happen to me and I can prove that by one or more promises He gave us. Satan not GOD but Satan comes to kill steal and destroy now if I sit back and do nothing the enemy will walk all over me and God did what? Since when does God go against our will?  I can say "faith and money" ooh did God help them? Yeah we tend to put God in and take Him out where we personally want and what we personally believe. Now I have ooh when pain was to much to endure or something else.. when there was no place to go and I stood on something He said and in that suffering and pain or whatever I rejoice.. I praise Him giving Him all the glory and praise I thank Him .. He never did it.. but every promise that He gave where I stand and do not move just stand and know not guess not wonder not hope but know He always keeps those promises Yes those moments work out for my good. When HE said "good" it seems some also look at that as "it might not be what you wanted but its what God wanted". Again as if you have say what so ever as if GOD is going to go against your will and do it anyway? Now to that I will say.. if I gave everything thing to Him .. and I am walking in His will (which is His word).. oh I may stumble but I am walking following Him.. no matter what the enemy tosses at me.. God will by me trusting in Him.. aka faith.. where I cannot see anything in front of me but I just have faith.. yes those moments will always work out for my good. 

Lol.. oh well I know great men of God who are gone home now that know not just believe but know where you are and everything that is happening to you.. its where GOD wanted you to be. This is different then what I said yet I do not know everything and God sees everything.. so yeah I can be wrong haha. But what I know is.. when I put my trust in Him no matter what it is.. repented of any sin so forth even looking back when I was to blame but repented .. He will take all of it and use it for good. Oh read over this so many times.... not here to offend

Maybe saying all of that like this.. if I believe "delight your self in the lord and He will give you the desires of your heart" and I just run with that.. yeah its not goona work why? What does the rest say? "Commit your way to the LORD, Trust also in Him, And He shall bring it to pass.".  What does trust mean? Faith. 

[WordSword]

16 hours ago, TheBlade said:

I am not the best speaker writer so try to see through the mistakes please.. "to those who are the called according to His purpose." What was being said before vs 28? Then we need to remember there were no chapters or verses when this was written we added them. We know with out faith we can not please Him. It seems unless I am reading it wrong that some are looking/applying this to everything that happens in our life's in some way or form  and God is working it for out Good?

Hi, and appreciate your sharing this! After all being said, I'm certain that Ro 8:28 does mean God uses everything, one way or another, for the benefit of those who love Him. Loving God is the primary function--and all the rest of what occurs is in God's control. He ensure that we desire to "please Him (Phl 2:13). He uses everything to teach us the forgiveness of our sins and of our growth in His Son's "image (2Co 3:18; Rom 8:29; Eph 4:15). 

God's blessings to your Family!

 

[farouk]

Another great verse that's relevant:

"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose." (Romans 8.28)