Did Kamala mock the Christian faith?

[nebula]

On 10/19/2024 at 7:57 AM, Neighbor said:

Interesting, though in this video I did not hear the comment to which she was was responding.

I do suggest that throwing out "Jesus is Lord" at a political rally for the left is almost certainly to be perceived as an attack on the left, not an encouragement to turn about to Jesus as Lord God and savior.

And so it is just another stone being thrown more than  any invitation to "come to Jesus".  Using  Jesus as a political slogan, or a cat call, probably is not a winning strategy in sharing of our Lord.

I have since learned more of the incident. As Kamala was going on about abortion and the crowd was cheering for it, one of two students of the college who were there together, spoke out that abortion is a sacrament of Satanism. The people around the two students started harassing them with verbal insults, and if I recall correctly, some physical jostling. So they proceeded to leave, but as they did, one cried out, "Christ is King!" and the other "Jesus is Lord!" in response to the harassment they were receiving. There is another video (which I don't know how to re-find) taken from someone on the gymnasium floor, and it was pretty clear the "Christ is King!" and "Jesus is Lord!" could be heard. You can see from the news cast video that Kamala turned to their direction just then and said, "You guys are at the wrong rally." It is quite clear that this is what she was responding to.

[Neighbor]

15 minutes ago, nebula said:

"You guys are at the wrong rally." It is quite clear that this is what she was responding to.

I don't doubt that. What I was stating/thinking about is that acting  in kind as our adversary is not a winning strategy.

BUT, right now people are at a peak of angst in opposing directions. Why just yesterday spouse and I went to a local family style restaurant for lunch. A place usually filled to the brim with geezers.

Suddenly  high pitched old ladies voices raised, and  some sort of verbal  emphatic discussion/argument ensued  Abortion Is MURDER!!! and on and on it went. I think the restaurant staff finally calmed them.

Maybe they gave them some free extra custard or something. The point?  It is a time without reason just emotion, a time for quiet prayer to God in the name of our Lord and savior as enabled by God the Holy Spirit.

[Neighbor]

 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,  that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.  For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?  And if you greet yourbrethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so?  Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect."  - Jesus

 

[nebula]

3 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

I don't doubt that. WhatI was stating/thinking about is that acting  in kind as our adversary is not a winning strategy.

BUT, right now people are at a peak of angst in opposing directions. Why just yesterday spouse and I went to a local family style restaurant for lunch. A place usually filled to the brim with geezers.

Suddenly  high pitched old ladies voices raised, and  some sort of verbal  emphatic discussion/argument ensued  Abortion Is MURDER!!! and on and on it went. I think the restaurant staff finally calmed them.

Maybe they gave them some free extra custard or something. The point?  It is a time without reason just emotion, a time for quiet prayer to God in the name of our Lord and savior as enabled by God the Holy Spirit.

I think you are missing the context of what happened. These young men weren't intending to be disruptive. 

[nebula]

5 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,  that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.  For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?  And if you greet yourbrethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so?  Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect."  - Jesus

 

John the Baptist rebuked King Herod for his sin. Do you condemn John the Baptist for having done this?

Jesus disrupted business by overturning tables, and He hit people with a whip. Are you going to claim that Jesus went against His own teaching?

Stephen was murdered by the Sanhedrin for saying something that was offensive to them. Do you hold Stephen to the same candle that you hold these two men up to?

[Debp]

10 hours ago, nebula said:

I have since learned more of the incident. As Kamala was going on about abortion and the crowd was cheering for it, one of two students of the college who were there together, spoke out that abortion is a sacrament of Satanism. The people around the two students started harassing them with verbal insults, and if I recall correctly, some physical jostling. So they proceeded to leave, but as they did, one cried out, "Christ is King!" and the other "Jesus is Lord!" in response to the harassment they were receiving. There is another video (which I don't know how to re-find) taken from someone on the gymnasium floor, and it was pretty clear the "Christ is King!" and "Jesus is Lord!" could be heard. You can see from the news cast video that Kamala turned to their direction just then and said, "You guys are at the wrong rally." It is quite clear that this is what she was responding to.

One of the young men said he was shoved by a 70 year old woman.   I didn't think much of it until I saw the shove.   That woman shoved him so hard that she would have made me fall on my face!

He just kept walking out.   He didn't respond to her physical assault on him.

If someone at a Trump rally would have shoved someone like that, the news would be blaring it all over.   And probably the police would have been called for assault.