" Replacement Theology"

[NConly]

29 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

There is no new law, it is the same law all the ancients walked by the law of Faith. See Hebrews

You mean like Heb 8

8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

God found fault with THEM ( they could not follow the OC)

So God offered His own Son as did Abel offered they best He had.

And they rejected Jesus meaning they do not have the offer of life after death.

See Acts 4

12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

[Anne2]

11 minutes ago, NConly said:

You mean like Heb 8

8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

like Heb 7

Heb 7:16  Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
17  For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
18  For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

According to the letter
Ro 2:28  For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

According to the spirit.
Ro 2:29  But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
 

[NConly]

2 hours ago, Anne2 said:

like Heb 7

Heb 7:16  Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
17  For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
18  For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

According to the letter
Ro 2:28  For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

According to the spirit.
Ro 2:29  But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
 

I do not see any way for someone to follow both old and new the Bible is clear one must choose old law old covenant or new law new covenant Jesus did not allow a mixing of the two. that is man made religion especially if the only follow part of the old law.

James 2

10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

[Anne2]

50 minutes ago, NConly said:

I do not see any way for someone to follow both old and new

I am talking about the covenant Made with Abraham. The covenant of circumcision. Not WHOLE LAW.....

See here

The covenant made through Moses is distinct....The patriacrhs were not under the Mosaic covenant

Deut 5:2  The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.
3  The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.

As said here

Precedence...over the sign of the sabbath

The circumcision of Abraham was for a sign and seal of the faith that he had before he was circumcised . He believed God and it was imputed to him for righteousness....The law of faith.

 

 

 7:22  Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers;) and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.

Edited April 7 by Anne2

[Your closest friendnt]

9 hours ago, The Light said:

Who is the first fold and who is the second fold?

There is only one fold from all the Nations of the world who are Sanctified and Justified by the blood of Jesus Christ the Lamb of God who took away the sin of the world upon himself and died on the Cross. 

Edited April 7 by Your closest friendnt

[Anne2]

3 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

The first fold are from those who believed when the  Gospel was first preached. Beginning from the disciples and the people close to Jesus who  witnessed Jesus and believed in him before his ansension and in general the people who believed in Him who came to faith from the old Covenant. 

And then those who came to faith in Jesus Christ from the Nations of the world. 

There is only one fold from all the Nations of the world who are Sanctified and Justified by the blood of Jesus Christ. 

Who all of them had their sins forgiven in the same way in the Atonement made by the blood of the Lamb God had promised to provide long time ago to Abraham. 

There is no Jew or Gentiles in the New Covenant. 

As Jesus Christ established the New MAN on earth with his death on the Cross. The MAN who needs to have his sins forgiven in the same way by faith in Jesus Christ. 

Those in the fold of Jesus Christ are identified by the root of their inheritance as it was before God had set apart the Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and the Nations from the Sons of Jacob who were called Israelites. 

Which continued from the Covenant made with Jacob and included his children's children in the Covenant of Sinai. 

This all came to the end at the time of Jesus Christ on the Cross. 

As everyone is found in their sins and this is why from now on they are called by their name as they were before God's Covenant with Jacob because the name Israel it was given to those in the blessings of Jacob whom The Lord called him Israel to make the distinction from the other HEBREWS and them.

As a result in the New Testament they are called HEBREWS to make the distinction from those who still believe that they are in the Covenant of Sinai. 

So those in the fold of Jesus Christ are the HEBREWS and the All the other Nations of the world who have believed in Jesus Christ so as God to include in Jesus Christ the other children of the Hebrew Abraham and their Children's children. And of course the descendants of Esau the other son of Isaac who have believed and continued to believed in Jesus Christ. 

Jesus sent his disciples to them to preached the same Gospel to them together as being in their sins. 

The Israelites joint their HEBREW relatives as HEBREWS them selves. 

HEBREWS means to be in their sins. 

 

The priesthood being changed, there is also a change in law. We therfore also know the priesthood of Melchizedek had a law distinct to it.

The law of faith......

Ro 3:27  Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

Levitical priesthood law of works

 

[NConly]

10 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

I am talking about the covenant Made with Abraham. The covenant of circumcision. Not WHOLE LAW.....

See here

The covenant made through Moses is distinct....The patriacrhs were not under the Mosaic covenant

Deut 5:2  The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.
3  The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.

As said here

Precedence...over the sign of the sabbath

The circumcision of Abraham was for a sign and seal of the faith that he had before he was circumcised . He believed God and it was imputed to him for righteousness....The law of faith.

 

 

 7:22  Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers;) and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.

Oh I see now what you mean that covenant with Abraham is as you say. It does not provide eternal life in Jesus as the new covenant does.

[Your closest friendnt]

15 minutes ago, NConly said:

Oh I see now what you mean that covenant with Abraham is as you say. It does not provide eternal life in Jesus as the new covenant does.

It only provided imputed righteousness to Issac with Whom the Lord made a Covenant with to establish him as the only heir of the blessings of Abraham which also means the exclusion of the other children of Abraham and their descendants. 

The Lord set apart from the rest of the world first Abraham and then Isaac. 

And then the Lord made another Covenant with Jacob to repeat to him the blessings of Abraham. To set him apart from the rest of the world and his brother Esau. 

Then the Lord changed the name of Jacob to Israel when He made something New as to include all his children and their children's children in the blessings of Abraham. That day the Lord set apart all the children of Jacob and their descendants from the rest of the world. And from them the Lord established a Nation for himself. Set apart from the rest of the world unto himself in the Covenant of Cirumcision. 

When the Lord said to Abraham that He will blessed him and made him a Nation that's what He had in his mind.

To eventually in Jacob to include all his children and to have a  Nation for himself. 

Edited April 7 by Your closest friendnt

[Anne2]

1 minute ago, Your closest friendnt said:

 

It only provided imputed righteousness to Issac with Whom the Lord made a Covenant with to establish him as the only heir of the blessings of Abraham which also means the exclusion of the other children of Abraham and their descendants. 

I believe it provided eternal life and the promise of the resurrection from the dead. Just like we have eternal life in Christ. However what it did not do is include gentiles in the carnal circumcision......therefore it is a sign of Abraham's internal heart circumcision...

Joh 11:26  And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

Mt 22:32  I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
Mr 12:27  He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.
Lu 20:38  For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.

Life everlasting......
Joh 10:10  The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
 

What land do we inherit with Abrahm? I think this

The land of the living

Ps 116:9  I will walk before the LORD in the land of the living.
 

Ps 142:5  I cried unto thee, O LORD: I said, Thou art my refuge and my portion in the land of the living.
 

[Your closest friendnt]

2 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

I believe it provided eternal life and the promise of the resurrection from the dead. Just like we have eternal life in Christ. However what it did not do is include gentiles in the carnal circumcision......therefore it is a sign of Abraham's internal heart circumcision...

Joh 11:26  And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

Mt 22:32  I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
Mr 12:27  He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.
Lu 20:38  For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.

Life everlasting......
Joh 10:10  The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
 

What land do we inherit with Abrahm? I think this

The land of the living

Ps 116:9  I will walk before the LORD in the land of the living.
 

Ps 142:5  I cried unto thee, O LORD: I said, Thou art my refuge and my portion in the land of the living.
 

Thinking about that to find out when Jesus Christ came into the picture. Need to study.