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On 4/6/2025 at 11:14 AM, The Light said:

Who is the first fold and who is the second fold?

The people of God to believe and be included in Jesus Christ. 

And then something that was unheard-of before and it was not though possible. 

The people who were not the people of God has seen a great light..and believe and were also included in the one fold. 

They were found in the fold of the world and are included in the people of God in Jesus Christ. 

This has nothing to do with any earthly fold but it has to do with the Heavenly Fold of believers in Jesus Christ. 

In the earthly centiment we call the one fold of Jesus Christ the CHURCH HIS CHURCH. 

His people while they pasture here on earth. They are scatter through out the wold from ALL Nations and without prejudice to include everyone who is a believer in Jesus Christ even those who will believe. 

The first fold are those who have believed and the other fold the fold of unbelievers everywhere in the world has a lot people who will believe and they will be brought in to join the fold of believer. One fold of Jesus Christ and without any prejudice to anyone regarding his genealogy or sex orientation. To make it relevant to our times because we said without prejudice to anyone who believes. 


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7 minutes ago, other one said:

Fron what I see and hear from friends across the g)obe ok he seems to be letting a lot of things happening. And he's told us they will make war with the saints and win so we should be looking for for these things. The Holy Spirit will get us through it

That has happened in some places in the world. They have outlaw Christinity from their mist. 

Not only Christuanity even other faiths and have established only their own.

A copy of how the country of Israel was during the Sinai Covenant. 

Same principle as the principle in the Sinai Covenant. Punishing or whipping any other religious beliefs from their land.

It's very common in some districts and small territorial settings.

And even within Christian settings. Which I want mention because this is not my intent to only to point that they exist.

Even factional territorial settings of the same core beliefs. 


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2 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

 

The first fold are those who have believed and the other fold the fold of unbelievers everywhere in the world has a lot people who will believe and they will be brought in to join the fold of believer. One fold of Jesus Christ and without any prejudice to anyone regarding his genealogy or sex orientation. To make it relevant to our times because we said without prejudice to anyone who believes. 

There is not one fold of believers and one fold of unbelievers. The Shepard knows His sheep and they know him. 

Both folds are believers.

The first fold is the Gentile Church. After the pretribulation rapture of the Church blindness is removed from part of Israel.

Then there are 144,000 first fruits from the 12 tribes.  And after that, Jesus comes for the second fold. The second fold is singing the song of Moses.....they are Jews.

Two raptures, two harvests, two folds. Both folds are taken to heaven as one fold..........the great multitude.


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48 minutes ago, The Light said:

There is not one fold of believers and one fold of unbelievers. The Shepard knows His sheep and they know him. 

Both folds are believers.

The first fold is the Gentile Church. After the pretribulation rapture of the Church blindness is removed from part of Israel.

Then there are 144,000 first fruits from the 12 tribes.  And after that, Jesus comes for the second fold. The second fold is singing the song of Moses.....they are Jews.

Two raptures, two harvests, two folds. Both folds are taken to heaven as one fold..........the great multitude.

the Jews are believers of God the Father and just before Jacobs trouble will be cleansed and become believers of Jesus NC

The church and some Jews are already NC Jesus believers


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3 hours ago, NConly said:

the Jews are believers of God the Father and just before Jacobs trouble will be cleansed and become believers of Jesus NC

The church and some Jews are already NC Jesus believers

Yes. And yet there will be two folds.

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Posted (edited)
10 hours ago, The Light said:

Yes. And yet there will be two folds.

I agree there are two folds now and when God the Father cleanses Israel and they believe in Jesus the one God the Father sent then they become one fold in Faith.

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, The Light said:

Yes. And yet there will be two folds.

It does say they are two folds but those two folds are made into one fold because he will do something with his death on the Cross when the Gentiles will hear the Gospel and believe and in Him they are one fold with one Shepherd and one Lord.

Jesus is speaking propheticaly as He had  not yet been glorified and made the Lord and Shepherd of all which happens after his death and his resurrection. 

The believing Jews continue to seperate themselves from the believing Gentiles but in Jesus Christ they were all in him in his forgiveness. They were His flock. All had forgiveness of sins in his blood. And in the same way.

Jesus established something that the Jews are in their sins after his death on the Cross and there is no deference between righteous or sinners Jews and between them and the Gentiles. They all need to believe in Jesus Christ to be in Jesus Christ flock.

They may seperate them selves and not fellowship with one another but to Jesus Christ they are all in him in his flock. One Shepherd one Lord for all. And all in his Heavenly Inheritance. And in the same way. AMEN 

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7 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

It does say they are two folds but those two folds are made into one fold because he will do something with his death on the Cross when the Gentiles will hear the Gospel and believe and in Him they are one fold with one Shepherd and one Lord.

 

As I said in an earlier post. So many want to skip the FACTS in the details and want to skip right to one-fold.

The FACTS are the first fold are known by the Lord and we know Him. He will take this fold with Him. This is a fold of sheep the good Shepard takes to heaven.

There are other sheep not of this fold that He must also bring. We can tell who they are because there are 144,000 first fruits, which tell us who these sheep are. They are the seed of the woman, the 12 tribes across the earth.

After the second fold is brought to heaven at the 6th seal, there is a great multitude in heaven in Revelation 7. The great multitude is the proof that two folds have been joined into one-fold. 

So don't skip the details as they are additional proof that He is coming in an hour that you think not. 

He is right at the door now. He is coming very, very, very, very soon for those who are watching for Him and are ready. The bride makes herself ready. Do not be fooled into believing there is ONLY one fold.

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8 hours ago, NConly said:

I agree there are two folds now and when God the Father cleses Israel and they believe in Jesus the one God the Father sent then they become one fold in Faith.

The Church is the first fold. We will be taken to heaven before the great tribulation, which occurs in the middle of the week.

The second fold is the 12 tribes across the earth. This is the seed of the woman who Satan goes after when He cannot get to the woman, Israel......as they have fled to the place of protection.

Jesus comes for the second fold at the 6th seal which is seen here.

Matthew 24

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

We get another view of the same event......here.

Revelation 14

14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

Both folds are in heaven during the wrath of God. They are there for the marriage supper and remain in heaven during the one-year wrath of God.

The woman Israel remains on earth during God wrath in a place of protection.


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Posted
35 minutes ago, The Light said:

The Church is the first fold. We will be taken to heaven before the great tribulation, which occurs in the middle of the week.

The second fold is the 12 tribes across the earth. This is the seed of the woman who Satan goes after when He cannot get to the woman, Israel......as they have fled to the place of protection.

Jesus comes for the second fold at the 6th seal which is seen here.

Matthew 24

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

We get another view of the same event......here.

Revelation 14

14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

Both folds are in heaven during the wrath of God. They are there for the marriage supper and remain in heaven during the one-year wrath of God.

The woman Israel remains on earth during God wrath in a place of protection.

I see the same in Jere 29: 14 and ch30  V 3,7,10,17,18 CH 31: 31-40 Israel is saved just before the great Trib of Jacobs trouble.

I agree with you.

Two things I do not have clear in my mind is Matt 24:29 compared to Jere 31

35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:

36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.

It seems either some stars will fall and some not or all will fall and all replaced.

The second thing I am not quiet clear Matt 24: 30

All the tribes of earth morn when they see the sign of the Son of man in heaven

Israel realizes this is the one they rejected. How long do they morn how long does Jesus take before he is on earth.

the gentile nation morn because they realize they had chances to repent and did not. How long do they morn how long does Jesus take before he is on earth.

When one comes to this kind of realization the morning can not be short lived.

 

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