A Deeper Truth: "My relationship with God is Jesus Christ!

[Johanabrahams]

On 1/17/2025 at 7:40 PM, Vine Abider said:

(I do suspect many Christians err on the "too low" side)

I totally agree.  Even in my own life I always did it.  Till I entered growing by Revelation where I saw that there is no "lower" between us and Christ.  No father nor The Father is into "lower creation".  To err on the "higher" side seems impossible.  Because human mind can not even fathom "the same side".   God and His Greatness can not be fathomed by the human mind.  It can only be Revealed.

[Johanabrahams]

On 1/17/2025 at 7:28 PM, Cntrysner said:

Yes, we as Body members are equal with each other but we are not equal with Christ, He is the creator God in us.

Jesus is not the Creator God, YHWH.  He is the Word of the Creator God on His Son.  So the Word is Creating us now in Jesus.  While the previous Word of the Creator God was on the Creation we are Living in.  Two totally different Words.  From One God.  Both the same in creating Life.  But the Word on Jesus the reason for the Words on the creation in the first instance.   God is giving birth as Father to His Son, Jesus.  As every father and The Father enjoys doing.

This Birth of the Living God on His Son is the most Glorious of all Births.  Where He died to save His Son from dead human life to be born into His Life where He is His Dad in Holiness.  Where He separated Himself in Holiness to everything to be the Father of His Son.  And we get to be that.

[Johanabrahams]

On 1/17/2025 at 8:59 PM, Vine Abider said:

Amen!  We need our vision raised to see His full stature . . . and also our full stature in Christ!

Amen.  The Higher our Revelation on Christ the Higher we see our New being and Existence in Christ.   That is Spiritual Growth.  Where most are still Babies in Jesus.  And need their Milk on their Righteousness.  To see their Saving Grace from their sinning human existence in the Word of Christ by which our Dad, Jehovah, raises us in Jesus.

[Johanabrahams]

On 1/17/2025 at 7:28 PM, Cntrysner said:

I was asking for clarity because it seemed he was saying he would be the Prince of peace, goverment on his shoulder, anointed, wonderful counseller.

Nope.  We would be Prince of Peace with the Governement on our shoulder in the anointing of the Holy Spirit in us being "Councillor".  The Holy Spirit did not somehow became a lesser being to create a lesser Existence now that He is in us.  In fact because the Holy Spirit is poured out on all flesh now we enter a Greater Existence with Greater Works in Jesus than He as the Word could ever be.  

[Michael37]

1 hour ago, Johanabrahams said:

This Birth of the Living God on His Son is the most Glorious of all Births.  Where He died to save His Son from dead human life to be born into His Life where He is His Dad in Holiness.  Where He separated Himself in Holiness to everything to be the Father of His Son.  And we get to be that.

What Scriptures support this attempt to expound Christian teaching?

[Johanabrahams]

9 hours ago, Michael37 said:

What Scriptures support this attempt to expound Christian teaching?

Let us start off with a very short verse.

1 John 3:  9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

[Michael37]

1 minute ago, Johanabrahams said:

Let us start off with a very short verse.

1 John 3:  9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

How does that explain what you wrote?

[Johanabrahams]

11 hours ago, Michael37 said:

How does that explain what you wrote?

When you look for explanations which exists in "satisfying your mind" you miss the Creation Power of the Word of God.  It does not exists in "understanding but Creating of New Life.  Understanding created 45 000 denominations.  Life created by the Word exists in you entering the Great Life in Jesus to actually Live and Be it.

 

In this verse you see the Profound change when you are born of God and became His Kid.  Where you entered the same Life He is Living.  One where you "can not" do any sin and are perfectly saved from sinning human existence.  But the Power of the Birth did it.  Nothing of self.  Only being "born of God".  And the virtue of the Birth.  In the Birth you entered the same Holiness as God.  To be totally separated from human life  in a death to it.  And you entered God Life in a New Birth.  The Child always is exactly the same as its Father.  That is why a kitten looks different from a puppy.  And they act totally different too.  Both growing up to be Equally to "its father".   Same with God of course.  You entered His Life in being in the Name of Jesus where you died as human being and are born again in the Name of Jesus.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 20 by Johanabrahams
Clarification of a word was needed

[Michael37]

2 hours ago, Johanabrahams said:

When you look for explanations which exists in "satisfying your mind" you miss the Creation Power of the Word of God.  It does not exists in "understanding but Creating of New Life.  Understanding created 45 000 denominations.  Life created by the Word exists in you entering the Great Life in Jesus to actually Live and Be it.

 

In this verse you see the Profound change when you are born of God and became His Kid.  Where you entered the same Life He is Living.  One where you "can not" do any sin and are perfectly saved from sinning human existence.  But the Power of the Birth did it.  Nothing of self.  Only being "born of God".  And the virtue of the Birth.  In the Birth you entered the same Holiness as God.  To be totally separated from human life  in a death to it.  And you entered God Life in a New Birth.  The Child always is exactly the same as its Father.  That is why a kitten looks different from a puppy.  And they act totally different too.  Both growing up to be Equally to "its father".   Same with God of course.  You entered His Life in being in the Name of Jesus where you died as human being and are born again in the Name of Jesus.

Someone with multiple accounts here contrary to the Terms of Service, with bans in place, might re-register and try to take the speck out of others' eyes when they have a whole forest in theirs.

[kwikphilly]

4 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Someone with multiple accounts here contrary to the Terms of Service, with bans in place, might re-register and try to take the speck out of others' eyes when they have a whole forest in theirs.

Mmm- sounds like a " salad" of words to me from @Johanabrahamsanyway.....from Almighty Father" Creating" Jesus in a comment to many other mixing of words in his other replies that are in opposition to what God's Word Actually Does Say and is not supported by Scripture.....that I'll not even reply to but would rather address:

WHO we are in Christ Jesus is not represented well by creating multiple accounts for the purpose of circumventing restrictions.....

Repentance and honestly is honorable
 

With love in Christ,Kwik