There Won't Be A Millennium On This Earth, Jesus Returns In Fire And Final Judgement (The End)

[truth7t7]

15 hours ago, enoob57 said:

absolutely a literal reality and no Scripture suggest otherwise!

The scripture below proves otherwise

When Jesus returns the resurrection takes place, (Then Cometh The End)

There's no Millennial Kingdom on this earth seen between verses 23-24 below, case closed 

Christ At His Coming "Then Cometh The End" Not A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth As Many Falsely Teach

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

Edited January 28 by truth7t7

[enoob57]

42 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

The scripture below proves otherwise

When Jesus returns the resurrection takes place, (Then Cometh The End)

There's no Millennial Kingdom on this earth seen between verses 23-24 below, case closed 

Christ At His Coming "Then Cometh The End" Not A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth As Many Falsely Teach

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

the whole of Scripture must be understood as a flow of unity toward precise fulfillment...

God speaks from an eternal position ... outside of time. Verse 24 is the start of the millennial kingdom where Jesus shall reign with a rod of iron 

Revelation 19:15 (KJV)

[15] And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

[16] And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

as all rule and authority is being put down even satan's

Revelation 20:1-3 (KJV)

[1] And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

[2] And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

[3] And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

 

[truth7t7]

2 hours ago, enoob57 said:

the whole of Scripture must be understood as a flow of unity toward precise fulfillment...

God speaks from an eternal position ... outside of time. Verse 24 is the start of the millennial kingdom where Jesus shall reign with a rod of iron 

Revelation 19:15 (KJV)

[15] And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

[16] And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

as all rule and authority is being put down even satan's

Revelation 20:1-3 (KJV)

[1] And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

[2] And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

[3] And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

 

Your Claim Is "False" Verse 24 States (Then Cometh The End) And The End Means The End, Not A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth For 1,000 Years

(Then Cometh The End)

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

Edited January 28 by truth7t7

[enoob57]

15 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Your Claim Is "False" Verse 24 States (Then Cometh The End) And The End Means The End, Not A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth For 1,000 Years

(Then Cometh The End)

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

So where do you place the Millennial kingdom?

[Desopixi Seilynam]

On 1/23/2025 at 6:24 AM, truth7t7 said:

Revelation 21:1-5KJV

1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

What about Revelation 20?

"blessed and holy is he that has part in the first resurrection;
on such the second death has no power
but they shall be priests of God and of Christ,
and shall reign with Him a thousand years"
Revelation 20:6

"And when the thousand years are finished,
Satan shall be loosed out of his prison"
Revelation 20:7

Revelation 20:1-7 describes 1,000 years with Satan locked away
no longer deceiving the world.
That is clearly not now, this world now is full of deception.

 

The deception leads to a major false Messiah,
one whom the world at large will believe is the real Messiah.
Deuteronomy 13:1-3, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-10, Revelation 13:11-18.
 

Afterwards the real Messiah returns.
The destruction of the whole world is not described at the return of the Messiah in Revelation 19:11-21, it describes Christ returning and slaying those gathered to fight Him with the sword of His mouth and then all the birds gather around the resulting bodies. Satan is cast into the bottomless pit, and the thousand years begins.

It is a thousand years of Christ and His immortal saints
ruling over the remaining mortals.

"The righteous shall rejoice when they see the vengeance
they shall wash their feet in the blood of the wicked."
Psalm 58:10

We enjoy 1000 years of victory over this world, literally reigning over it,
anyone left alive (for many will have been underground and in caves and mountains Rev 6:15, Isaiah 2:19) will be required to come to Jerusalem for the feast of tabernacles once a year, those that do not come will experience a rotting.
[ Zechariah 14 ]

After the thousand years Satan is let loose Revelation 20:7
And he gets the world to try to attack the camp of the saints
but a fire comes down and destroys them Revelation 20:9
it is at this point we can insert 2 Peter 3:8-12
because afterwards the destruction of the whole world is described.

The divine fire consumes the whole world,
one would have to be immortal to survive it.

The city of heaven comes down, Revelation 21:2
and those able to pass through the fire are able to enter the city.

 

[Indentured Servant]

6 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

22 hours ago, Indentured Servant said:

In fact, the period of 1000 years is mentioned six times in six consecutive verses in Revelation 20. Each time, it is validated by the associated events and specific activities linked to it. 

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived!

So then, it would seem that your warning against being deceived is merely warning people that the scripture doesn't mean what it says... 

 

7 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?

2.) Physical Earthly Throne?

3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Why should they only be found in Revelation 20?

The Prophets speak of the earthly, physical kingdom of the Messiah with descriptions of cleaning up the land surrounding the temple (after His fiery entrance ), and of delegates from other nations coming to the temple annually to honor the King.

There is also mention of the Earthly Messiah-King settling disputes for other nations, and enacting a law that prohibits warfare and weaponry. 

Much is said about animals during this earthly, physical rule... That predatory animals and their prey will live in peace; that children can reach for a snake and not get bitten; that birds will gorge themselves on the flesh of God's enemies after He has razed the land with fire.

7 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

This verse isn't the proof-text you're seeking to validate the non-existence of a thousand year period that is specifically stated in scripture.

This verse, in its context, is a reminder not to be impatient because God views time differently than we experience it... Otherwise, we can use it to "prove" creation took seven thousand years, etc. it's not a mathematical key that defines days and years.

[truth7t7]

16 hours ago, enoob57 said:

So where do you place the Millennial kingdom?

A literal Millennial Kingdom on this earth doesn't exist in scripture

By all means show me where you believe it does, we have plenty of time to discuss the topic in "Detail"

Edited January 29 by truth7t7

[truth7t7]

12 hours ago, Indentured Servant said:

The Prophets speak of the earthly, physical kingdom of the Messiah with descriptions of cleaning up the land surrounding the temple (after His fiery entrance ), and of delegates from other nations coming to the temple annually to honor the King.

There is also mention of the Earthly Messiah-King settling disputes for other nations, and enacting a law that prohibits warfare and weaponry. 

Much is said about animals during this earthly, physical rule... That predatory animals and their prey will live in peace; that children can reach for a snake and not get bitten; that birds will gorge themselves on the flesh of God's enemies after He has razed the land with fire.

By all means post your claims "one by one" where you believe a literal Millennial Kingdom on this earth is seen in the Old Testament, we have plenty of time to discuss your belief in "Detail"

Edited January 29 by truth7t7

[truth7t7]

16 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

Revelation 20:1-7 describes 1,000 years with Satan locked away
no longer deceiving the world.
That is clearly not now, this world now is full of deception.

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

Edited January 29 by truth7t7

[truth7t7]

16 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

It is a thousand years of Christ and His immortal saints
ruling over the remaining mortals.

There Won't Be Remaining Mortals To Rule Over As You Claim

There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV

1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV

13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV

7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV

2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV

6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV

3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV

5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV

15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of f

Zechariah 14:12KJV

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV

5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.

6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Edited January 29 by truth7t7