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On 2/2/2025 at 10:17 AM, Anne2 said:

All I am saying is the various ways they counted a day. I quoted Chabad. the night they ate the passover was considered the 14th day because of the sacrifices. The passover sacrifice belonged to the fourteenth day all night until the morning, when a sacrifice was brought for the first day of unleavened bread. A day in the month would have made that night the beginning of the 15th day, but was considered still the 14th by them. The best way I can say it is, a liturgical day (temple ministry) was continually from morning to evening, everyday of the year.

  The first sacrifice the morning sacrifice it takes place for the 14th of Nissan and all the other days 15 hours into the 14th of Nissan. 

This is how I calculated it.

We have 12 hours night till the Sunrise at 6:am and then three hours to 9am when the morning sacrifice for the 14th is taking place. 

The evening sacrifice for the 14th will take place at 3 pm six hours later.

This is 21 hours into the 14th of Nissan.  


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9 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

 The passover day the 14th of Nissan is a 24 hour period and the first 12 hour is night as the day starts at sunset which in Jerusalem is at 6:00 pm. 

I have already posted how judaism DID IT.

The night after Passover was considered to belong to the 14th day, not the 15th. The 15th did not begin until the morning. Then then night of that day belonged to the 15th day, not the 16th. And that is how the entire week went. That is because of the days being for Sacrifices.

13 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

From 6:00 pm to about 37 minutes it is light, the light after the sunset which it belongs the 14th. 

This is how the 14th day starts. This is when they slaughter the passover lamb at the beginning of the 14th while it was still light after the sunset. And they cook it and have their passover supper. 

The calendar days of the month is at nightfall.

It has to be pretty dark to see three stars.

"Nightfall in Judaism is defined as the point at which at least one cluster of three small stars is observable in the night sky with the naked eye1234. The exact moment when night begins is not clear, and there are different practices based on the appearance of three medium-sized or three small stars4."


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18 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

I have already posted how judaism DID IT.

The night after Passover was considered to belong to the 14th day, not the 15th. The 15th did not begin until the morning. Then then night of that day belonged to the 15th day, not the 16th. And that is how the entire week went. That is because of the days being for Sacrifices.

The calendar days of the month is at nightfall.

It has to be pretty dark to see three stars.

"Nightfall in Judaism is defined as the point at which at least one cluster of three small stars is observable in the night sky with the naked eye1234. The exact moment when night begins is not clear, and there are different practices based on the appearance of three medium-sized or three small stars4."

Jesus died on the Passover day the 14th of Nissan. 21 hours from the beginning of the 14th day of Nissan. 

Beginning to count the hours from the last sunset. The beginning of the 14th to Jesus death 21 hours into the 14th. 

After three hours of Jesus death the sun will set at 6:00 pm the beginning of the 15th. 

Jesus died at the time of the evening offering of the 14th day. The first offering was the morning offering at 9:am on the 14th 15 hours from the beginning of the 14th at sunset. 

What is that you to not understand why don't you calculate it your self Please. 

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@Anne2 :

 

Exodus 12:6 New King James Version
6 Now you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of the same month. Then the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it at twilight.

twilight:  the period or the light from the sky between  sunset and full night. 

This is when they slaughter the Passover lamb at twilight. Everyone as per Exodus 12:6 .

at the time of Jesus in Jerusalem the twilight lasted 37 minutes after sunset. 

the first 37 minites of the 14th is the twilight period. And it is the same thing for every other day after sunset. 

also the samething in the morning before the sunrises when the roosters start to crow.

 you are talking about when darkness start. 

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1 hour ago, Your closest friendnt said:

@Anne2 :

 

Exodus 12:6 New King James Version
6 Now you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of the same month. Then the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it at twilight.

twilight:  the period or the light from the sky between  sunset and full night. 

This is when they slaughter the Passover lamb at twilight. Everyone as per Exodus 12:6 .

at the time of Jesus in Jerusalem the twilight lasted 37 minutes after sunset. 

the first 37 minites of the 14th is the twilight period. And it is the same thing for every other day after sunset. 

also the samething in the morning before the sunrises when the roosters start to crow.

 you are talking about when darkness start. 

I am talking about when a day begins in a calendar month. You are talking about the time something is tb done on a day in a Calendar month.


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3 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Jesus died on the Passover day the 14th of Nissan. 21 hours from the beginning of the 14th day of Nissan. 

Beginning to count the hours from the last sunset. The beginning of the 14th to Jesus death 21 hours into the 14th. 

After three hours of Jesus death the sun will set at 6:00 pm the beginning of the 15th. 

Jesus died at the time of the evening offering of the 14th day. The first offering was the morning offering at 9:am on the 14th 15 hours from the beginning of the 14th at sunset. 

What is that you to not understand why don't you calculate it your self Please. 

Jesus ate the Passover with his disciples on the 14th. He gave us the Lord's supper.

His one time sacrifice more than covered all the sacrifices that were by the law.


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1 hour ago, Anne2 said:

I am talking about when a day begins in a calendar month. You are talking about the time something is tb done on a day in a Calendar month.

Any Calendar day began at sunset and ended at the next sunset. 

In two words from sunset to sunset. It supposed to be.


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31 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

Jesus ate the Passover with his disciples on the 14th. He gave us the Lord's supper.

His one time sacrifice more than covered all the sacrifices that were by the law.

Yes indeed Jesus ate the passover with his disciples on the 14th and he gave us the Lord's supper. 

About the second paragraph it should be discussed. Because according to what we have in the scriptures it can't be truth. 

Think for yourself. 

The Sinai Covenant was for the Israelites only. It considered eligible only them. Everything in the book of Leviticus it was about them under the Sinai Covenant. 

Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the children of Jacob before the Law was given they did not practice the law. 

They did not have all those lamb you are referring to. 

The ancestors of Abraham all the way to Noah and from Noah to Adam did not have the lambs and the Circumcision of Abraham.  

No lamb was offered in the Temple for them or for anyone else who had died. It was only for those who were eligible at the time they were offered. 

Jesus was the Lamb of God who took away the sin of the world. In the Lamb of God everyone was included even the dead. All the dead of the world. There is not such a Lamb in the book of Leviticus. 

 


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24 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

About the second paragraph it should be discussed. Because according to what we have in the scriptures it can't be truth. 

All the sacrifices of the law were mere Shadows, including the passover. That was my point

He did not die on the day of atonement, but that was just a shadow, his one time sacrifice covered that despite the day he died. He was an atoning sacrifice. The Passover was not for sin.

He did not need to die on the 14th to be a passover sacrifice, or on the day of atonement to atone for sin. His one time sacrifice covered them all.

Heb 10: 1   For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

Heb 10:12  But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

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12 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

All the sacrifices of the law were mere Shadows, including the passover. That was my point

He did not die on the day of atonement, but that was just a shadow, his one time sacrifice covered that despite the day he died. He was an atoning sacrifice. The Passover was not for sin.

He did not need to die on the 14th to be a passover sacrifice, or on the day of atonement to atone for sin. His one time sacrifice covered them all.

Heb 10: 1   For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

Heb 10:12  But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

There needs to be a meticulous discussion. 

Jesus on the road to Emmaus he said to the two disciples beginning with Moses and all the prophets everything concerning himself. It was there but they couldn't see it.

They did not understand the depth of the New Covenant for many years to come. 

 Paul. Is the one to say that we only see partially. 

And the easiest way is to agree of what the law did not provide and the need for something new was obvious but the people could not understand how it will happen. 

The prophetic highlight it litle by little through out many generations and they were devoted in lengthy studies but still it was not possible to understand something that was hidden from them. 

 

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