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[Luther]

On 2/6/2025 at 12:27 AM, Marilyn C said:

Islam`s two Factions.

Islam has two factions – Shia and Sunni Muslims.

Shia – revolutionary, reactionary and explosive.

Sunni – traditional Fundamentalists.

There have been many conflicts between the two incompatible factions: Iraq/Iran war, the genocide in Iraq, etc.

God`s word predicted the bitter historical and religious partition of the two great branches of Islam. Looking again at the Great Image in Daniel`s time we see that the final Gentile Kingdom of the Middle East will be divided.

`The feet and toes, partly of potter`s clay and partly of iron, the kingdom shall be divided..` (Dan. 2: 41)

This polarization inhibits this confederacy from realizing its full potential. Eventually, however, a predicted dictator will emerge from their midst. He will unite them into the ruthless super-power that will dominate the whole world. 

 

Islam against Israel.

In 2023 the Middle East came back into World View. Satan had stirred Iran to try and eliminate Israel. They used their proxies in Gaza, Lebanon, Jordan and Yemen to attack Israel. They are Shia Muslims, unpredictable and uncontrollable.

In 2025 the President of America has asked some of the surrounding Arab nations to take in the people of Gaza as their cities get rebuilt. However, he does not realize that those nations are mainly Sunni and do not want Shia terrorists in their midst. The West does not understand the deep hatred even in the Muslim world amongst themselves.

The conflict has inflicted severe hardships on both sides, however, at last there is a cease fire with hostages being released over the next six weeks – end of February.

Now even though God has been protecting Israel He desires His people to realize that it is not by their strength that they gained the victory. Israel needs to turn to God.

 

Amen. They need to hurry up because it seems like Christ is at the door:

Matthew 25:1,10,13

Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.

[10]And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

[13]Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

[Luther]

On 2/6/2025 at 2:52 PM, Keras said:

Israelis are not Gods people. You just assume the God has helped them, but He does not help those who reject Jesus. 

There is no scripture which says there will be a general redemption of the Jews. 

It is included, as on the Lords Day of fiery wrath, ALL of the Middle East region will be cleared and cleansed. Hosea 4:3, Zephaniah 1:14-18, Hebrews 10:27

 

You said: "Israelis are not Gods people. You just assume the God has helped them, but He does not help those who reject Jesus."

Dang! I actually agree with you on something ....😄

And yes, actually the Lord's day of His fiery wrath will consume the whole earth:

Zephaniah 3:8

Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy.

[Luther]

On 2/6/2025 at 3:05 PM, Marston said:

I think there is.

 

Romans 11:25

25 Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

( This is a recent post of mine that might be of interest to you. God bless you)

Romans 11 Revisited.... again.

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By Luther

February 2 in Theology

 

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Posted February 2

I am amazed at how many well meaning christians believe that Romans 11 has to do with a whole nation of people. It's as if nothing in the chapter has any relevance until we get to verse 26:

 

" And so all Israel shall be saved...."

 

What would that mean anyway? Every jew that lives in Israel (the nation) only? Every jew on the face of the earth? What does " all" include?

 

First let's back up a little and examine the word "so":

 

"So" ( Strong's #3779)

 

Transliteration: houtō

 

From G3778; in this way (referring to what precedes or follows): - after that after (in) this manner as even (so) for all that like (-wise) no more on this fashion (-wise) so (in like manner) thus what.

 

KJV Usage: so (164x), thus (17x), even so (9x), on this wise (6x), likewise (4x), after this manner (3x)

 

And " In this manner" all Israel shall be saved.

 

In what manner? If we go back to the beginning of the chapter, we see who God considers to be "His people". He is very specific:

 

Romans 11:1-7

 

I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

 

[2]God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,

 

[3]Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.

 

[4]But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.

 

[5]Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

 

[6]And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

 

[7]What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.

 

The " election" is a chosen remnant of those from all nations who will obtain an eternal inheritance:

 

1 Peter 1:2,4

 

Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

[4]To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

 

" All Israel" is the remnant from the fulness or " completion" of the nations, when the very last person ordained to eternal life becomes saved. 

 

Romans 11:26

 

And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

 

Where is it written?

 

Isaiah 59:20-21

 

And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.

 

[21]As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.

 

This " covenant" of God's Spirit not departing out of the mouth of the seed of Jacob " henceforth and for ever" is a reference to each and every person in Christ. It's for ever. This covenant therefore must include everyone because there is only one covenant or agreement that's eternal. 

 

Isaiah 45:22-23,25

 

Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.

 

[23]I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

 

(Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;)

 

 

 

[25]In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.

 

" all " the seed of Israel is " justified":

 

Romans 3:24

 

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

[Keras]

2 minutes ago, Luther said:

Dang! I actually agree with you on something .

Thanks. But you are actually agreeing with the Bible Prophets.  Over 100 Prophesies tell us, in great detail, how the Lord intends to clear and cleanse all of the holy Land area. Deuteronomy 32:34-43

[Luther]

On 2/7/2025 at 3:07 AM, Keras said:

Yes,

Why not? Those born into the Kingdom are thrown out, Matthew 8:12, they cursed themselves, Matthew 27:25 and they belong to the synagogue of Satan. 

Their fate is Prophesied over 20 times. one is the Parable of the Land Owner, Luke 20:9-15...He will put those bad tenants to death.....Luke 19:27, +

It is just the false teaching of the rapture to heaven that promotes a Jewish Redemption, as they must have the Jews on earth, going thru tribulation, while they do harp practice for 3 1/2 years.  Haha

Harp practice...lol. 

I have a question for you. Do you really believe that the unsaved are going to be thrown in a place called " hell" to be burned and tortured for ever and ever? 

Could not God be merciful to those who will be not be with Him for ever? I believe it's horrible enough not being with the Lord. 

[Keras]

4 hours ago, Luther said:

Harp practice...lol. 

This remark is made to show how wrong and unscriptural the idea of humans going to live in heaven; is. Jesus said it was impossible.

We have works to do here on earth. Get on with whatever is in your capacity, or be castigated as was the servant who hid the talent he was given. 

4 hours ago, Luther said:

I have a question for you. Do you really believe that the unsaved are going to be thrown in a place called " hell" to be burned and tortured for ever and ever? 

I do not believe in an eternal hell, or a Lake of fire, burning people forever. We are told the godless wicked peoples will be destroyed and be remembered no more. Romans 9:22    I do not see any useful point being served, to torture them. 

[Luther]

6 hours ago, Keras said:

This remark is made to show how wrong and unscriptural the idea of humans going to live in heaven; is. Jesus said it was impossible.

We have works to do here on earth. Get on with whatever is in your capacity, or be castigated as was the servant who hid the talent he was given. 

I do not believe in an eternal hell, or a Lake of fire, burning people forever. We are told the godless wicked peoples will be destroyed and be remembered no more. Romans 9:22    I do not see any useful point being served, to torture them. 

"We have works to do here on earth."

Correct. And if you are "whisked away " before the end who will be here to minister the Word of God , or to be a witness for Him? 

[Revelation Man]

On 2/6/2025 at 1:52 PM, Keras said:

Israelis are not Gods people. You just assume the God has helped them, but He does not help those who reject Jesus. 

 

Zechariah 13:8-9 shows that 1/3 (5 million) of the Jews (which are all 12 tribes who live in Judea) repents, and the very next verse says the DOTL ARRIVES (Zech. 14:1 says so). God through Ezekiel in chapter 37 specifically says He brings the WHOLE HOUSE of Israel back into the land in UNBELIEF (Meaning without breath in them) via putting flesh back on their dead men's bones. A remnant is 1/3 or 5 million, which is not a few people. And Romans 11 states that Israel will not repent until the "Time of the Gentiles has come full" (Church Age), and thus Israel repents during the 70th week. 

You just do not understand prophesy my friend, and I can not allow you to misinform the masses with this anti Israel stuff. It has been my job for 40 years to expose this stuff for what it is. 

As per Trump taking over Gaza, you do not understand Trumps tactics, he might if they all agree, but he's positing himself at an extreme position to force all parties to find a solution, or he's going to tell Israel to finish the job they started, by getting rid of all the terrorists, its an either or proposition. 

On 2/6/2025 at 5:03 PM, Keras said:

In Romans 11, we are told the natural 'branch's' are cut off, but can be re-grafted back. Nowhere is it said that any Jews, other than those who are Messianic Jews now, will be. The rest are those in Zechariah 13:8-9, Ezekiel 21:1-7 a, Luke 19:27, +

 

Paul clearly states ALL Israel will be saved (NOT every Jew but Israel as a Nation is SAVED because Jesus serves & rules from Jerusalem for 1000 years) and we know that means 1/3 or 5 million Jews are saved, not 144,000 which is a code from God just like the 1/3, God was never going to give Saran a heads up on his plans 2000-2500 years ago, thus He gave us a ratio (1/3) and a code (144,000 as in 12 = fulness x 12 x 10 = completeness x 10 x 10 which equals 144,000 or ALL Israel). 

The 2/3 die, but guess what, half of the Church miss the Rapture because they are fake, so 1 billion Christians not 2 billion make the pre trib. rapture so only 1/8 of the Gentiles make it to heaven, whilst 1/3 of the Jews get saved. Hmmm, that's a much higher percentage isn't it? 

 

[Keras]

3 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

You just do not understand prophesy my friend, and I can not allow you to misinform the masses with this anti Israel stuff. It has been my job for 40 years to expose this stuff for what it is. 

'anti Israel stuff'?  But I'm in good company!  Matthew 8:12, Matthew 19:27, Revelation 2:9, +

That it is you who is in error, is shown by how you think the 'one third' of Zech 13:9, are survivors.  They must 'pass thru fire' and only a tested remnant will be found worthy. Romans 9:27  They will join with the main group of Christians; Jeremiah 50:4-5

Also, your Spiritualizing of the Millennium, is wrong. It is very clear that the Millennium period will be on earth. Isaiah 2 & Zech 14:16-21

[Keras]

RELOCATION OF THE PALISTINIANS:

Although Trump is confident that Egypt and Jordan will bow to his demands, history suggests otherwise. For both countries, absorbing Palestinian refugees has always been a red line. Despite their reliance on US aid and military support – leverage that Trump could exploit – Egypt, Jordan, and three other Arab states have outright rejected the idea of taking in Gazans.

Arab nations have a long history of abandoning Palestinians in their most desperate moments. After losing the West Bank and Gaza to Israel in the 1967 war, they largely washed their hands of responsibility. More recently, in October 2023, when Israel waged war against Hamas, not a single neighboring Arab country granted refuge to fleeing Gazans. Yet the world continues to place sole responsibility for the Palestinian refugee crisis on Israel, while ignoring Egypt and Jordan's role.

Palestinians who wish to escape war-torn Gaza and build better lives for themselves should be allowed to do so – and Egypt and Jordan have a responsibility to facilitate that. After all, both countries once ruled over Palestinian territories and violently suppressed Palestinian nationalism.

During Jordan's occupation of the West Bank (1948–1967), Palestinian political parties were banned, activists were arrested, and any expression of Palestinian self-determination was crushed. In 1960, King Hussein dissolved the Palestinian-dominated West Bank legislature and censored the media to prevent nationalist sentiment from taking hold. The Hashemite Kingdom operated under the belief that Palestinians and Jordanians were one people, which is why it lives in perpetual fear that an influx of hundreds of thousands more Palestinians would destabilize the country.

Egypt, for its part, never wanted a Palestinian state that could threaten its national security. When it controlled Gaza, it imposed restrictions on the local population and prevented any move toward sovereignty. After Hamas took over the Strip, Egypt reinforced its blockade on Gaza, proving that its concerns have never been about Palestinian liberation – only its own interests.

For too long, Egypt and Jordan have played a significant role in Palestinian suffering while escaping accountability. It is time for the international community to hold them responsible and pressure them to play a real role in resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

While Egypt and Jordan claim to champion the Palestinian cause, their actions tell a different story. The plight of the Palestinians has been weaponized as a political tool against Israel rather than addressed in a meaningful way.

Recently, the foreign ministers of Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE – along with a Palestinian official – sent a letter to US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, rejecting the transfer of Gazans and instead urging the Trump administration to support a two-state solution. The problem, however, is that based on current polling, Palestinians in Gaza have no interest in peace or a two-state solution. Their goal remains the destruction of Israel. We all know what "From the river to the sea" truly means. Rewarding their actions with statehood would be appeasement for jihadists.

Forced displacement is not the answer, but neither is clinging to failed diplomatic strategies while holding only Israel accountable for solving the Palestinian refugee crisis.    Israel Hayom. Feb 2025

Now, we await Gods solution to this problem:

2 Peter 3:12 Look forward to the coming Day of the Lord and work to hasten it on, that Day will set the sky ablaze and will melt the elements in fervent heat.

Isaiah 9:19 The land is scorched and the people are fuel for the fire.

Jeremiah 4:26 The fertile land becomes a wilderness before the fierce anger of the Lord.

Isaiah 42:15 I shall lay waste to all the land and dry up the rivers and lakes.

Ezekiel 15:8 I will make the land a waste because they have broken faith.

Joel 1:11 & 19-20 Despair you farmers for your harvest is lost, the ground is dry and scorched.  To You, Lord I cry out for fire has consumed the pastures and trees of the land.

Jeremiah 9:10-12 ......the land is scorched and untrodden, not even birds or beasts remain.   Jerusalem and the towns of Judah are ruined and uninhabited. The Land is a dead place, burned and laid waste.