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22 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Please elaborate a little bit so I can follow?  

As God, the judge of all the earth. Clearly so from Egypt on.

De 2:25  This day will I begin to put the dread of thee and the fear of thee upon the nations that are under the whole heaven, who shall hear report of thee, and shall tremble, and be in anguish because of thee.
 

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4 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Paul represented the New Testament Lord, Jesus Christ who died for the sins of the people and does not want any sinners to be perish. 

Some others they still linger in the Lord of the Old Testament and how he had dealt with sin because at that stage in their lives they did not had the Revelation of Paul whom himself did not have them at first but at some time later in his life. 

And they were bringing the things of the Old Testament into the New even though they know that there was a change in Lordship from the Old into the New.

The Lord of the New has died for the Sins of all people.  And God has given him all the earth to be his people. He reins over all the earth. The walls are taken down. 

And God is still judge of the wicked.


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Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord, the people whom he has Chosen as His Heritage!!

Psalm 33:12. 

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2 hours ago, Gracejj said:

Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord, the people whom he has Chosen as His Heritage!!

Psalm 33:12. 

If you please know them why don't you name them. 

And please tell us something about their heritage  


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3 hours ago, Anne2 said:

And God is still judge of the wicked.

Do you have scripture for that? 

In the Old Testament the Judge of the people in not the same as the Judge of the New Testament.

The Judge of the Old Testament he will not Judge the people of the New Testament. 

But the Judge of the New Testament will Judge all the people of the old testament and the new Testament. All people includes both good and bad and the not so good and the not so bad.

And His name is Jesus Christ. 


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3 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Do you have scripture for that? 

In the Old Testament the Judge of the people in not the same as the Judge of the New Testament.

The Judge of the Old Testament he will not Judge the people of the New Testament. 

But the Judge of the New Testament will Judge all the people of the old testament and the new Testament. All people includes both good and bad and the not so good and the not so bad.

And His name is Jesus Christ. 

I am speaking of what I think the the role of a nation Isreal in this world given the law that brings wrath.....Not the Church in Christ.

THE LAW of Moses. Of the Sinai/Horeb covenant....

 Ro 5:13  (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
1Ti 1:9  Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
 


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On 2/17/2025 at 6:36 PM, Luther said:

You said: "They had Jesus killed"

I'm sorry to seem like I'm nitpicking here, but I would like to remain faithful to God's word. So in actuality, the Jews made an agreement with Pilate:

Matthew 27:21-26 KJV

The governor answered and said unto them, Whether of the twain will ye that I release unto you? They said, Barabbas. [22] Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be crucified. [23] And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified. [24] When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it. [25] Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children. [26] Then released he Barabbas unto them: and when he had scourged Jesus, he delivered him to be crucified.

If the Jews didn't bring him to Pilate, he wouldn't have been Crucified.  Pilate found no fault in him.


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7 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

I am speaking of what I think the the role of a nation Isreal in this world given the law that brings wrath.....Not the Church in Christ.

THE LAW of Moses. Of the Sinai/Horeb covenant....

 Ro 5:13  (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.


1Ti 1:9  Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
 

I am polite specially with you. 

I am trying to get in what you are saying. 

I do not understand why you are posting from Romans? 

I understand that it is about the Law of Moses. 

 

 


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35 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

I am polite specially with you. 

I am trying to get in what you are saying. 

I do not understand why you are posting from Romans? 

I understand that it is about the Law of Moses. 

 

 

I am sorry Sometimes I have a hard time understanding you. 

All I am saying is Israel still has a purpose in this world. God partially blinded them. In my opinion it has to do with Judgement of the wicked in this world and life. That seems to have connection in their calling (they did displace nations by judgement of wickedness). As for Israel, being partly blinded...Many speak of them being in unrepentance. Many are like Paul (WAS) I believe.

 1Ti 1:13  Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

As those judged by the law....

Le 4:27  And if any one of the common people sin through ignorance, while he doeth somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and be guilty; {any one: Heb. any soul } {common … : Heb. people of the land }
Le 5:15  If a soul commit a trespass, and sin through ignorance, in the holy things of the LORD; then he shall bring for his trespass unto the LORD a ram without blemish out of the flocks, with thy estimation by shekels of silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary, for a trespass offering:
Le 5:18  And he shall bring a ram without blemish out of the flock, with thy estimation, for a trespass offering, unto the priest: and the priest shall make an atonement for him concerning his ignorance wherein he erred and wist it not, and it shall be forgiven him.

****As for any unbeliever (not just partly blinded) among them. It does not make God's faithfulness without effect toward or among them..
Ro 3:3  For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

4  God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
 

I do not know how things will go here with the people of Israel, but the above speaks of them during the Church age. 

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1 hour ago, Cyoder said:

If the Jews didn't bring him to Pilate, he wouldn't have been Crucified.  Pilate found no fault in him.

"..... he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it. [25] Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children."

And thus the jews are cursed ( deicidal curse) to this very day. Please keep in mind that I am referring to the lineage of the Pharisees and those jews who followed them, who did not receive Christ. And quite frankly anyone would be cursed if they aren't in Christ. 

 

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