Created in the Image of God

[MichaelSnow]

On 2/27/2025 at 8:38 AM, 70x7 said:

We are born with an eternal hell bound soul a dead spirit and a dying body. This is not the image of God

You are on the edge of heresy. Yes, we have a dying  body and are damned without Christ.  But only heretics claim we are not created in the image of God.

[enoob57]

Genesis 5:3 (KJV)

[3] And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:

 

[Cntrysner]

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[FreeGrace]

1 hour ago, MichaelSnow said:

70x7 said:

We are born with an eternal hell bound soul a dead spirit and a dying body. This is not the image of God

You are on the edge of heresy. Yes, we have a dying  body and are damned without Christ.  But only heretics claim we are not created in the image of God.

Exactly!  God created Adam with a body, soul and human spirit (1 Thess 5:23) which reflects (image) the Triune God.  

When Adam ate the fruit, it was his human spirit that died "on the day" he ate it.  So everyone is born spiritually dead, meaning their human spirit is dead.  And that is why everyone needs to be born again or RE-generated or made alive (Eph 2:5).

So even in spiritual death, man is still in the image of God.

[FreeGrace]

1 hour ago, enoob57 said:

Genesis 5:3 (KJV)

[3] And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:

The "image of God" is genetically passed to progeny.  

[enoob57]

46 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

The "image of God" is genetically passed to progeny.  

This is why I disagree with your assessment 

John 4:24 (KJV)

[24] God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

The children born to fallen Adam were no longer spiritual beings... this is my understanding as why must be born again...
The preponderance of scholarship agree that after the fall mankind no longer carried the image of God...

[FreeGrace]

27 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

This is why I disagree with your assessment 

John 4:24 (KJV)

[24] God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

The children born to fallen Adam were no longer spiritual beings... this is my understanding as why must be born again...

But I agree with this!  what died "on the day" was Adam's spirit.  It didn't go away, but became like a corpse.  And that is why everyone is born spiritually dead, which means their human spirit is dead, and why they need to be born again.

27 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

The preponderance of scholarship agree that after the fall mankind no longer carried the image of God...

They are free to their own conclusions.  But the very words "RE-generation", "made alive" DO mean something, and what I believe is completely logical and reasonable.

And fits everything.  How do you explain what literally is "made alive" or "RE-generated"?  

I can only guess that your answer will be something about figurative language, metaphors, etc.  But that only allows a view that can't be challenged or proved.

When Jesus told Nic at nite he must be born again, He wasn't using figurative language.  He was being literal.  Just as He was with the woman at the well.

[70x7]

On 3/9/2025 at 3:52 AM, FreeGrace said:

The "image of God" is genetically passed to progeny.  

That scripture proves otherwise. Seth was created in Adams image, not Gods image. 

[Cntrysner]

Adam ate of the tree which gave him the knowledge of good and evil or the capacity to know he was sinful in the flesh. The act of eating the fruit did not make Adam sinful, it was disobeying God that sin entered the world. The penalty of sin is the process of physical death to all mankind, God did not say that Adam’s spirit would die but said dying you shall die (lateral translation Gen 2:17).

God clarifies the meaning of what death Adam would die and the process of how he would die.

Gen 3:17  And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; 
Gen 3:18  Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; 
Gen 3:19  In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. 

 When Adam disobeyed in eating the fruit the process of physical death began. The word says sin is in the flesh (Rom 8:3), it does not say sin is in the spirit. Adam’s problem was his flesh which gave him the desire to sin (Gal 5:16-21). We know the spirit of man which came out of the Father is at war with the flesh and that the Holy Spirit communicates with our spirit at salvation (Rom 8:16). If we are born with a dead spirit it would be impossible for God to communicate with us. The spirit is God’s breath and a conduit for God’s Spirit and it can not die (Ecc 12:7).

The soul is judged by the spirit or the flesh so walk in the spirit via the Holy Spirit..
 

Edited March 9 by Cntrysner

[FreeGrace]

12 hours ago, 70x7 said:

FreeGrace said:

The "image of God" is genetically passed to progeny.  

That scripture proves otherwise. Seth was created in Adams image, not Gods image. 

Ok, so in what image was Adam created?  I rest my case.

And a question for you:  How can Romans 5 be true if Adam's sin nature isn't passed down to progeny?

And a request for you:  since you claim that Scripture "proves otherwise", could you please quote any verse that actually says what you say?

If you can't do that, I'll know what you claim is an opinion.