CUFI

[FriendofJonathan]

John Hagee, founder and leader of Christians United for Israel (CUFI), claims the Jew does not to be evangelised and receive Jesus as Savior. 

Hagee said: "Let us put an end to the Christian chatter that ‘all the Jews are lost’ and can't be in the will of God until they convert to Christianity... There are a certain number of Jews in relationship with God right now through divine election.” (Source: Hagee, Should Christians Support Israel?, Pages 124-25, 127)

"The Jewish people have a relationship to God through the law of God as given through Moses… I believe that every Jewish person who lives in the light of the Torah, which is the word of God, has a relationship with God and will come to redemption.” (Source: Julia Duin, "San Antonio Fundamentalist Battles Anti-Semitism," The Houston Chronicle)

“The law of Moses is sufficient enough to bring a person into the knowledge of God..."

is Hagee right?

[Who me]

19 hours ago, FriendofJonathan said:

John Hagee, founder and leader of Christians United for Israel (CUFI), claims the Jew does not to be evangelised and receive Jesus as Savior. 

Hagee said: "Let us put an end to the Christian chatter that ‘all the Jews are lost’ and can't be in the will of God until they convert to Christianity... There are a certain number of Jews in relationship with God right now through divine election.” (Source: Hagee, Should Christians Support Israel?, Pages 124-25, 127)

"The Jewish people have a relationship to God through the law of God as given through Moses… I believe that every Jewish person who lives in the light of the Torah, which is the word of God, has a relationship with God and will come to redemption.” (Source: Julia Duin, "San Antonio Fundamentalist Battles Anti-Semitism," The Houston Chronicle)

“The law of Moses is sufficient enough to bring a person into the knowledge of God..."

is Hagee right?

 

How ignorant6 f the bible and of israel is this guy.

 

The bible, that is Jesus says No One comes to God except by me!  does he understand the plain meaning of Jesus's words?

Has he been to isral, does heundrstand the spirit of this age is Anti Gos, demonic?

try reading what Israelis say abot themselves:-https://www.timesofisrael.com/religion-has-outsized-role-in-israel-yet-most-of-its-jews-arent-really-observant/

 

They Do Not Follow the Talmud Laws.

in simple english:- they are pagan, non christian bound for hell.

[FriendofJonathan]

1 hour ago, Who me said:

 

How ignorant6 f the bible and of israel is this guy.

 

The bible, that is Jesus says No One comes to God except by me!  does he understand the plain meaning of Jesus's words?

Has he been to isral, does heundrstand the spirit of this age is Anti Gos, demonic?

try reading what Israelis say abot themselves:-https://www.timesofisrael.com/religion-has-outsized-role-in-israel-yet-most-of-its-jews-arent-really-observant/

 

They Do Not Follow the Talmud Laws.

in simple english:- they are pagan, non christian bound for hell.

There is hope. Jewish evangelists for Jesus Christ in Israel are educating more and more Jews on the need to receive Jesus as Savior. 

Groups like: So Be It, One for Israel, Jews for Jesus, and others, provide one on one face-to-face witnessing and sharing of the gospel.

When these groups read to Jews the prophet Isaiah, most of the nonbelieving Jews don't recognize that Isaiah is from the Tanakh (the Old Testament).  In fact, most admit they've never read Isaiah 53, and when it is read to them by one from these evangelical groups, they will say it is written about Jesus and must be a New Testament writing.  They are shocked to learn the truth. 

Yes, the blinders are being lifted in Israel, one by one. 

Praise God. 

[Who me]

The jews like every unsaved groups of people need to recieve Jesus as saviour.

Just because one is white, church going( sometimes ), is well behaved, educated or follows some moral code does not mean one is bound for heaven.

 

Salvation is ONLY through Jesus.

[Tristen]

Galatians 2:21
I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.

 

[other one]

On 3/1/2025 at 12:47 PM, FriendofJonathan said:

“The law of Moses is sufficient enough to bring a person into the knowledge of God..."

is Hagee right?

I think he said bring a Jew into the knowledge of God, not a person.   That may be true, but knowledge of God is not what saves a person, it is the death and resurrection of Jesus and believing he was raised from the dead and confessing him as Lord. The first covenant did not promise eternal life with the Lord as far as I can see.

What God does with the Jewish people as a whole is none of my business, for Paul says something about them being partially blinded, but will all come to him in the end.   I don't have a clue how that is to be, but I think I'm not into putting him into a box as to how he should do things.

[In the Clouds]

why Hagee?   He loves and prays for the peace of Jerusalem.  

I know Hagee prays for the Jews and the gentiles.  He wishes that no one should be lost.   

[Who me]

Psalm 19

New International Version - UK

For the director of music. A psalm of David.

1 The heavens declare the glory of God;

    the skies proclaim the work of his hands.

2 Day after day they pour forth speech;

    night after night they reveal knowledge.

3 They have no speech, they use no words;

    no sound is heard from them.

4 Yet their voice goes out into all the earth,

    their words to the ends of the world.

In the heavens God has pitched a tent for the sun.

5 It is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber,

    like a champion rejoicing to run his course.

6 It rises at one end of the heavens

    and makes its circuit to the other;

    nothing is deprived of its warmth.

 

7 The law of the Lord is perfect,

    refreshing the soul.

The statutes of the Lord are trustworthy,

    making wise the simple.

8 The precepts of the Lord are right,

    giving joy to the heart.

The commands of the Lord are radiant,

    giving light to the eyes.

9 The fear of the Lord is pure,

    enduring for ever.

The decrees of the Lord are firm,

    and all of them are righteous.

 

10 They are more precious than gold,

    than much pure gold;

they are sweeter than honey,

    than honey from the honeycomb.

11 By them your servant is warned;

    in keeping them there is great reward.

12 But who can discern their own errors?

    Forgive my hidden faults.

13 Keep your servant also from wilful sins;

    may they not rule over me.

 

 

Then I will be blameless,

    innocent of great transgression.

 

14 May these words of my mouth and this meditation of my heart

    be pleasing in your sight,

    Lord, my Rock and my Redeemer.

 

The majority  of Israelies, of American, of man kind does not see that the creation around them points to God.

Israelies have the law yet they do not follow it. Having the law, being God's chosen people has do e nothing to bring them closer to God.

[Luther]

On 3/1/2025 at 1:47 PM, FriendofJonathan said:

John Hagee, founder and leader of Christians United for Israel (CUFI), claims the Jew does not to be evangelised and receive Jesus as Savior. 

Hagee said: "Let us put an end to the Christian chatter that ‘all the Jews are lost’ and can't be in the will of God until they convert to Christianity... There are a certain number of Jews in relationship with God right now through divine election.” (Source: Hagee, Should Christians Support Israel?, Pages 124-25, 127)

"The Jewish people have a relationship to God through the law of God as given through Moses… I believe that every Jewish person who lives in the light of the Torah, which is the word of God, has a relationship with God and will come to redemption.” (Source: Julia Duin, "San Antonio Fundamentalist Battles Anti-Semitism," The Houston Chronicle)

“The law of Moses is sufficient enough to bring a person into the knowledge of God..."

is Hagee right?

He, along with others of like mind, are wrong, of course. Just like Scofield, they are influenced by the same people who want the Christian church to support their teaching of an "earthly millennial kingdom":

"The concept of a Messianic era, which is often compared to the "Millennial Reign" in Christian theology, is discussed extensively in the Talmud, particularly in Tractate Sanhedrin, where it describes a time of peace and prosperity under the leadership of the Messiah, although the specific term "millennium" is not explicitly used in the Jewish text."( Brought to you by AI)

They plan to govern the world ( mostly all of it they control at this point) and rule over their "oppressors" with laws not good for Christians. And when they say  "messiah", he ain't the one we're thinking of.....

The jews rejected Jesus Christ, therefore they have rejected a relationship with the  God of the Bible:

1 John 2:22-23 KJV

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

[23] Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Sorry if I don't sound like all the other Christians out there. Time to find out what's really going on. 

 

Edited March 3 by Luther
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[Luther]

18 hours ago, other one said:

I think he said bring a Jew into the knowledge of God, not a person.   That may be true, but knowledge of God is not what saves a person, it is the death and resurrection of Jesus and believing he was raised from the dead and confessing him as Lord. The first covenant did not promise eternal life with the Lord as far as I can see.

What God does with the Jewish people as a whole is none of my business, for Paul says something about them being partially blinded, but will all come to him in the end.   I don't have a clue how that is to be, but I think I'm not into putting him into a box as to how he should do things.

Well surely you would agree that there is only one way to the Father. That's why all of us, jew included, must come to Jesus before He comes.