Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth

[truth7t7]

2 hours ago, JoeCanada said:

3 - If everyone is  immortal and death has been swallowed up, they why do people still die in the eternal state?

Joe it's my only conclusion that your suggesting Isaiah 65:20 seen below in a child dying at 100yrs old, you didn't give scripture reference to your claim

The scripture screams in Isaiah 65:17 at the reader that the place seen is the New Heaven and Earth, then Isaiah 65:18 screams "rejoice forever" in that which I create "The New Creation" 

Joe Revelation 21:4 & Isaiah 65:17-19 are the very same "Parallel" teachings of the NewHeaven and Earth (Eternal State) (former things passed away) (no more weeping crying)

Joe the infant dying at 100 years old is a figure of speech showing eternal, it's not literal dying as you suggest

Ok pal your turning 100 yrs old at midnight, give everyone your last hugs goodbye?

Jesus Is The Lord

Revelation 21:4KJ 

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Isaiah 65:17-20KJV

17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.

19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.

20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

Edited Thursday at 05:17 AM by truth7t7

[truth7t7]

24 minutes ago, Locust said:

Did you ever figure out where the lake of fire is

Isaiah 66:24KJV

24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

Revelation 22:14-15KJV

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Revelation 14:9-11KJV

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Edited Thursday at 05:27 AM by truth7t7

[Locust]

2 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Isaiah 66:24KJV

24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

Revelation 22:14-15KJV

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Revelation 14:9-11KJV

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

ahh,so the answer is no .....you never did figure out where the lake of fire is

[DeighAnn]

13 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

"False"

John 5:28-29KJV

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

I can understand how you might think it is FALSE, but if that is true, then you will be able to explain how and where these things fit elsewhere and how and where they do not where I propose they do.  


Points I will be making to show how my belief goes, like how

1)  the Father raised the dead before Jesus did. 

2) those who hear and believe won't ever be buried in the grave - so they can't be any part of any 'resurrection of the dead' (good or evil) at ANY point in the future, having already attained eternal life and been raised up and having followed Him...and will be returning with Him when He comes

3) there was an hour present 'in that day' in which there was a resurrection of the dead AND there is going to be an 'hour' in the future in which there will be a resurrection out from THE DEAD again and the dead in the graves that will be resurrected will consist of BOTH good and evil beings, just not any 'saved' beings.     


John 5
19 Answered therefore Jesus and was saying to them, Truly, truly I say to you, not is able the Son to do of Himself nothing, if not anything He might see the Father doing; whatever for He does, these things also the Son likewise does

20 For the Father loves the Son, and all things shows to Him that He does; and greater than these He will show Him works, so that you may marvel

21 Even as for the Father raises up the dead (Adj-AMP) and gives life, thus ALSO the Son to whom He will gives life. 

22 Not even for the Father judges no one but judgment all has given to the Son,

23 so that all may honor the Son, even as they honor the Father He who not is honoring the Son, not is honoring the Father, the [One] having sent Him

24 Truly truly I say to you that the [one] the word of Me hearing and believing (both PRESENT conditions) the [One] having sent Me, he has (presently has, holds, possesses)  life eternal and into judgment not comes but has passed (depart, pass over, change, move) out of (away from, out from among, from in to out) death into life. 

25 Truly, truly I say to you that is coming an hour and NOW IS, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those having heard will live


they will hear the voice of the Son of God, not the voice of the KING OF KINGS

Once that first /resurrection/hour is OVER there will never again be any of the  'LIVING/saved/in faith' found in the place of the dead aka death/hell/grave because from that point on the SAVED will FOLLOW HIM to heaven and return with Him back to earth having been raised/changed/transformed at the death of their flesh and blood body, and NOT resurrected from hell/death/grave. 

 

26 As for the Father has life in Himself, so also to the Son He gave life, to have in Himself

27 And authority He gave Him judgment to execute because Son of Man He is

28 Not marvel at this, for is coming an hour in which all those in the tombs will hear the voice of Him

Do you believe those who have been 'SAVED' have been SAVED FROM HELL/ death/ the grave, so they CAN'T be in the tombs or place of the dead?


29 and will come forth - those good (GOOD, BENEFICIAL, VIRTUOUS) having done to [the] resurrection of life; and those evil having done, to [the] resurrection of judgment


Realizing I am repeating, but WHO comes forth FROM THE GRAVES? 

I don't believe it is  THE SAVED because the SAVED don't go to hell/grave/place of the dead, BECAUSE they have learned the way, the LIFE, the RESURRECTION and so Follow Him, to be where He is, and when the day comes, will be returning with Him....

As for the dead with 'good natures', THEY ARE yet dead in Christ, still in sins and trespasses, LACKING SALVATION through FAITH and BELIEF in the Son of GOD, the Son of Man, Our Lord and Saviour, the Messiah Christ Jesus, the Lamb of God...and so are buried in the tombs/graves, and NOT until the return of Christ at the 2nd Advent will 'the dead' rise, and even at that point, SOME will still remain in hell, sea and death for the 1000 years, the LORDS (belonging to the Lord like the Lords Supper) DAY, until the GWTJ.  


What your belief is missing is HOW someone who has been raised up to heaven having been made ALIVE in CHRIST, having attained life eternal, having passed FROM DEATH to life already, having stood at the judgment seat of Christ and having received his body from heaven

goes from THAT point OF LIFE.... to becoming one of THE DEAD that rise at Christs return.  

and most of all WHERE ANYTHING of that nature is written because everything I wrote above can be found in these parts of the Bible 



Matt 21
50  Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.

51  And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

52  And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53  And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

Matthew 26:45 Then cometh he to his disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners


Mark 14:41  And he cometh the third time, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: it is enough, the hour is come; behold, the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners  

 

Luke 4
16  And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. 17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

18  The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. 20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. 21And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

John 12
27  Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour. 28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again. 29  The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him. 30  Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes. 31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. 32  And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. 33  This he said, signifying what death he should die. 


16:27  For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God. 28  I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

29  His disciples said unto him, Lo, now speakest thou plainly, and speakest no proverb. 30  Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest forth from God. 31  Jesus answered them, Do ye now believe? 32  Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone: and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me. 33  These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Gen 3

14And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.


Basic point- the living aren't found in the grave, only the dead are.   
 

Ephesians 4

7  But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.  8  Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men  9  (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?  10  He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

 

John 11
 23  Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. 24  Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. 25  Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: 26  And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? 


Though he were dead would be the first resurrection out from the dead, WHEN the graves were opened and they rose up and were seen, CHRIST the firstfruits of THEM THAT SLEPT

1 Corinth 15
20  But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

Them that slept, PAST.  NOT of all that will ever 'fall asleep'...that is a resurrection of the dead....

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

Death didn't come LATER, it came in the day, same as resurrection of those who go to sleep, not later but on their last day. 


22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

Again, not some LATER DATE, the RANSOM paid the 'release' from captivity takes place


23  But every man in his own order: Christ

Out from the dead BEGINS with Christ

23 the firstfruits;

and EVERY MAN in their own order, not later but at that time

23  afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

and then the ALVIE AND REMAINING...as the Lords Day begins....


24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

What happens during the 1000 years/day?  HE PUTS down all rule and authority and power.  WHY?

25  For He must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

Satan is bound for 1000 years and then will be released... GOD ENDS IT and

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.


Then comes the GWTJ...but NOT UNTIL

27  For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also Himself be subject unto HIM that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
 

[truth7t7]

2 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

I can understand how you might think it is FALSE, but if that is true, then you will be able to explain how and where these things fit elsewhere and how and where they do not where I propose they do.  


Points I will be making to show how my belief goes, like how

1)  the Father raised the dead before Jesus did. 

2) those who hear and believe won't ever be buried in the grave - so they can't be any part of any 'resurrection of the dead' (good or evil) at ANY point in the future, having already attained eternal life and been raised up and having followed Him...and will be returning with Him when He comes

3) there was an hour present 'in that day' in which there was a resurrection of the dead AND there is going to be an 'hour' in the future in which there will be a resurrection out from THE DEAD again and the dead in the graves that will be resurrected will consist of BOTH good and evil beings, just not any 'saved' beings.     


John 5
19 Answered therefore Jesus and was saying to them, Truly, truly I say to you, not is able the Son to do of Himself nothing, if not anything He might see the Father doing; whatever for He does, these things also the Son likewise does

20 For the Father loves the Son, and all things shows to Him that He does; and greater than these He will show Him works, so that you may marvel

21 Even as for the Father raises up the dead (Adj-AMP) and gives life, thus ALSO the Son to whom He will gives life. 

22 Not even for the Father judges no one but judgment all has given to the Son,

23 so that all may honor the Son, even as they honor the Father He who not is honoring the Son, not is honoring the Father, the [One] having sent Him

24 Truly truly I say to you that the [one] the word of Me hearing and believing (both PRESENT conditions) the [One] having sent Me, he has (presently has, holds, possesses)  life eternal and into judgment not comes but has passed (depart, pass over, change, move) out of (away from, out from among, from in to out) death into life. 

25 Truly, truly I say to you that is coming an hour and NOW IS, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those having heard will live


they will hear the voice of the Son of God, not the voice of the KING OF KINGS

Once that first /resurrection/hour is OVER there will never again be any of the  'LIVING/saved/in faith' found in the place of the dead aka death/hell/grave because from that point on the SAVED will FOLLOW HIM to heaven and return with Him back to earth having been raised/changed/transformed at the death of their flesh and blood body, and NOT resurrected from hell/death/grave. 

 

26 As for the Father has life in Himself, so also to the Son He gave life, to have in Himself

27 And authority He gave Him judgment to execute because Son of Man He is

28 Not marvel at this, for is coming an hour in which all those in the tombs will hear the voice of Him

Do you believe those who have been 'SAVED' have been SAVED FROM HELL/ death/ the grave, so they CAN'T be in the tombs or place of the dead?


29 and will come forth - those good (GOOD, BENEFICIAL, VIRTUOUS) having done to [the] resurrection of life; and those evil having done, to [the] resurrection of judgment


Realizing I am repeating, but WHO comes forth FROM THE GRAVES? 

I don't believe it is  THE SAVED because the SAVED don't go to hell/grave/place of the dead, BECAUSE they have learned the way, the LIFE, the RESURRECTION and so Follow Him, to be where He is, and when the day comes, will be returning with Him....

As for the dead with 'good natures', THEY ARE yet dead in Christ, still in sins and trespasses, LACKING SALVATION through FAITH and BELIEF in the Son of GOD, the Son of Man, Our Lord and Saviour, the Messiah Christ Jesus, the Lamb of God...and so are buried in the tombs/graves, and NOT until the return of Christ at the 2nd Advent will 'the dead' rise, and even at that point, SOME will still remain in hell, sea and death for the 1000 years, the LORDS (belonging to the Lord like the Lords Supper) DAY, until the GWTJ.  


What your belief is missing is HOW someone who has been raised up to heaven having been made ALIVE in CHRIST, having attained life eternal, having passed FROM DEATH to life already, having stood at the judgment seat of Christ and having received his body from heaven

goes from THAT point OF LIFE.... to becoming one of THE DEAD that rise at Christs return.  

and most of all WHERE ANYTHING of that nature is written because everything I wrote above can be found in these parts of the Bible 



Matt 21
50  Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.

51  And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

52  And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53  And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

Matthew 26:45 Then cometh he to his disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners


Mark 14:41  And he cometh the third time, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: it is enough, the hour is come; behold, the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners  

 

Luke 4
16  And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. 17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

18  The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. 20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. 21And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

John 12
27  Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour. 28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again. 29  The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him. 30  Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes. 31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. 32  And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. 33  This he said, signifying what death he should die. 


16:27  For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God. 28  I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

29  His disciples said unto him, Lo, now speakest thou plainly, and speakest no proverb. 30  Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest forth from God. 31  Jesus answered them, Do ye now believe? 32  Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone: and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me. 33  These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Gen 3

14And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.


Basic point- the living aren't found in the grave, only the dead are.   
 

Ephesians 4

7  But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.  8  Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men  9  (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?  10  He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

 

John 11
 23  Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. 24  Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. 25  Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: 26  And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? 


Though he were dead would be the first resurrection out from the dead, WHEN the graves were opened and they rose up and were seen, CHRIST the firstfruits of THEM THAT SLEPT

1 Corinth 15
20  But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

Them that slept, PAST.  NOT of all that will ever 'fall asleep'...that is a resurrection of the dead....

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

Death didn't come LATER, it came in the day, same as resurrection of those who go to sleep, not later but on their last day. 


22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

Again, not some LATER DATE, the RANSOM paid the 'release' from captivity takes place


23  But every man in his own order: Christ

Out from the dead BEGINS with Christ

23 the firstfruits;

and EVERY MAN in their own order, not later but at that time

23  afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

and then the ALVIE AND REMAINING...as the Lords Day begins....


24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

What happens during the 1000 years/day?  HE PUTS down all rule and authority and power.  WHY?

25  For He must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

Satan is bound for 1000 years and then will be released... GOD ENDS IT and

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.


Then comes the GWTJ...but NOT UNTIL

27  For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also Himself be subject unto HIM that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
 

I Disagree, we covered many of the claims made already

Appreciate if you make one claim at a time for response, instead of presenting multiple claims on a "Novel Sized" response

"One Claim At A Time" this will provide for focused responses and eliminate confusion 

1.) Claim

2.) Explanation

3.) Supporting Scripture

Thanks!

Jesus Is The Lord

Edited yesterday at 02:13 AM by truth7t7

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, truth7t7 said:

I Disagree, we covered many of the claims made already

Appreciate if you make one claim at a time for response, instead of presenting multiple claims on a "Novel Sized" response

"One Claim At A Time" this will provide for focused responses and eliminate confusion 

1.) Claim

2.) Explanation

3.) Supporting Scripture

Thanks!

Jesus Is The Lord

@truth7t7

This passage from 2nd Peter 1:14 does it has one meaning for Peter. Peter is speaking about his beliefs of what  happens to all believers. And all people when they die. But in this passage he specifically speaks about what happens to believers, as he sees him self as a believer. 

Did he knew what will happen to him at the time when his body cannot sustain life and quits on him. When his heart stops beating. 

2 Peter 1:14 

CSBsince I know that I will soon lay aside my tent, as our Lord Jesus Christ has indeed made clear to me.

NLTFor our Lord Jesus Christ has shown me that I must soon leave this earthly life,

KJVKnowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me.

NKJVknowing that shortly I must put off my tent, just as our Lord Jesus Christ showed me.

[truth7t7]

31 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

@truth7t7

This passage from 2nd Peter 1:14 does it has one meaning for Peter. Peter is speaking about his beliefs of what  happens to all believers. And all people when they die. But in this passage he specifically speaks about what happens to believers, as he sees him self as a believer. 

Did he knew what will happen to him at the time when his body cannot sustain life and quits on him. When his heart stops beating. 

2 Peter 1:14 

CSBsince I know that I will soon lay aside my tent, as our Lord Jesus Christ has indeed made clear to me.

NLTFor our Lord Jesus Christ has shown me that I must soon leave this earthly life,

KJVKnowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me.

NKJVknowing that shortly I must put off my tent, just as our Lord Jesus Christ showed me.

Luke 16:19-31KJV

19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

[Your closest friendnt]

Why did not say something about about Peter and what he said in 2nd Peter 1:14 the Lord showed me that soon I will live behind this earthly tabernacle. 

Where Peter was going? 

     I am not sure why you post something Jesus said to the Jews and everyone who heard him before the Cross and while the world was devided in Jews and Gentiles. Before everything was made New. 

Peter did not die in the Sinai Covenant and before the death of Jesus on the Cross.  

[Desopixi Seilynam]

On 5/6/2025 at 11:17 PM, truth7t7 said:

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Ezekiel 47:12KJV

12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Revelation 22:1-2KJV

1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

 

(The City Of The Thousand Years)

Ezekiel 48:35

"It was round about 18,000 measures: and the name of the city
from that day shall be, The Lord is there"

Ezekiel 41:1

"he brought me to the temple,
and measured the posts, six cubits broad on one side,
and six cubits broad on the other side,
which was the breadth of the temple"
 

18,000 with a 6x6 temple in the middle.

 

(The Eternal City)

Revelation 21:16

"the city lies foursquare,
and the length is as large as the breadth:
and he measured the city with the reed,
12,000 furlongs."

Revelation 21:22

"And I saw no temple therein:
for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it."

12,000 with no temple, instead a throne out in the open in the middle.

Notice also 18,000 minus the 6x6 temple is 12,000.
 

(Thousand years)

Ezekiel 46:1-2

"The gate of the inner court that looks
toward the east shall be shut the six working days;
but on the sabbath it shall be opened,
and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened."

"And the prince shall enter by the way of the porch
of the gate without......
but the gate shall not be shut until the evening."

Gates get shut and open at various times.

 

(Eternal kingdom)

Revelation 21:25

"And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day:
for there shall be no night there"
 

Gates never get shut, and there is no evening.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[truth7t7]

2 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

2 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

 

(The City Of The Thousand Years)

Ezekiel 48:35

"It was round about 18,000 measures: and the name of the city
from that day shall be, The Lord is there"

Ezekiel 41:1

"he brought me to the temple,
and measured the posts, six cubits broad on one side,
and six cubits broad on the other side,
which was the breadth of the temple"
 

18,000 with a 6x6 temple in the middle.

 

(The Eternal City)

Revelation 21:16

"the city lies foursquare,
and the length is as large as the breadth:
and he measured the city with the reed,
12,000 furlongs."

Revelation 21:22

"And I saw no temple therein:
for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it."

12,000 with no temple, instead a throne out in the open in the middle.

Notice also 18,000 minus the 6x6 temple is 12,000.
 

(Thousand years)

Ezekiel 46:1-2

"The gate of the inner court that looks
toward the east shall be shut the six working days;
but on the sabbath it shall be opened,
and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened."

"And the prince shall enter by the way of the porch
of the gate without......
but the gate shall not be shut until the evening."

Gates get shut and open at various times.

 

(Eternal kingdom)

Revelation 21:25

"And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day:
for there shall be no night there"
 

Gates never get shut, and there is no evening.

 

 

Many Claim Ezekiel Chapters 40-46, Represents A Future Temple In A Millennium On Earth, Is This True?

As clearly shown, Ezekiel Chapter 43 showed the temple "Pattern" to the House of Israel in the Babylonian Captivity let "Them" measure, Ezekiel was instructed to write the ordinances and law in "Their" sight, that "They" keep them, not some future generation as many "Falsely" claim

The temple seen in Ezekiel Chapters 40-46 is nothing more than the 2nd Zerubbabel Temple built 536BC after the Babylonian Captivity, where animal sacrifice for "Sin" was instructed by "God", prior to the shed blood of Jesus Christ on Calvary, don't be deceived

Ezekiel 43:10-11 & 19-21KJV

10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.

11 And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them.

 

19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord God, a young bullock for a sin offering.

20 And thou shalt take of the blood thereof, and put it on the four horns of it, and on the four corners of the settle, and upon the border round about: thus shalt thou cleanse and purge it.

21 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it in the appointed place of the house, without the sanctuary.

 

Edited 21 hours ago by truth7t7