Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth

[luigi]

27 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

God's holy words below shows the wicked being "destroyed" by fire and brimstone at the Lord's revealing, you give complete disregard to this biblical fact and have Jesus ruling over them while they're living, Big Smiles!

(Destroyed Them All)

Luke 17:29-30KJV

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

As I stated previously, I believe the destruction that befalls the faithless, commences with the first resurrection at the end of the great tribulation. It is at this time in which the Son of man is revealed, when He comes with His myriads of Holy ones (Jude 1:14). At this point the remnant who are alive on the earth are empowered and commence to rule with a rod of iron, along with the Spirit of the Lord and His resurrected Holy ones, all of whom have now achieved attaining their altar (Revelation 6:9-11).

 

 

[luigi]

47 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Paul clearly taught that when Jesus returns the resurrection of the dead takes place, (Then Cometh The End) its that simple (The End) not a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as many "Falsely" claim

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

 

I totally concur, that when Jesus returns the resurrection of the dead takes place. This (partial) resurrection is depicted in Daniel 12:1-2, occurring somewhere near the end of what is described as the worst of times that mankind will ever have experienced--also known as the great tribulation period. Upon this resurrection, when the Lord is revealed along with myriads of His Holy ones; the wise who are still alive on the earth are greatly enlightened according to the following verse in Daniel 12:3. This is the same great enlightening that is described in Isaiah 60:1-3. 

Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2  And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Daniel 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

Isaiah 60:1 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee. 2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. 3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.

 

[Locust]

10 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Luke 17:29-30KJV

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

that did happen in 70-73 

[truth7t7]

3 hours ago, luigi said:

I totally concur, that when Jesus returns the resurrection of the dead takes place. This (partial) resurrection is depicted in Daniel 12:1-2, occurring somewhere near the end of what is described as the worst of times that mankind will ever have experienced--also known as the great tribulation period. Upon this resurrection, when the Lord is revealed along with myriads of His Holy ones; the wise who are still alive on the earth are greatly enlightened according to the following verse in Daniel 12:3. This is the same great enlightening that is described in Isaiah 60:1-3. 

Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2  And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Daniel 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

Isaiah 60:1 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee. 2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. 3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.

 

(False Claim)

You call Daniel 12:1-2 below a (Partial Resurrection), then you have persons living beyond this point, "Wrong"

Daniel 12:1-2 is the "Final Judgement" the book of life is opened, the resurrection to everlasting life and everlasting contempt is taking place, this happens (ONCE) at the (FINAL JUDGEMENT)

Daniel 12:1-2KJV

1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Edited Wednesday at 06:12 PM by truth7t7

[Locust]

4 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

False Claim

You call Daniel 12:1-2 below a (Partial) resurrection, then you have persons living beyond this point, wrong

Daniel 12:1-2 is the "Final Judgement" the book of life is opened, the resurrection to everlasting life is taking place, this happens (ONCE) 

Daniel 12:1-2KJV

1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

in the grand scheme of things yes there is a partial resurrection. first are the ones that i will refer to as the elect . they are the 144000 found in the book revelation. its very possible they ,the ones that have died have already taken their positions in heaven .

[luigi]

52 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

(False Claim)

You call Daniel 12:1-2 below a (Partial Resurrection), then you have persons living beyond this point, "Wrong"

Daniel 12:1-2 is the "Final Judgement" the book of life is opened, the resurrection to everlasting life and everlasting contempt is taking place, this happens (ONCE) at the (FINAL JUDGEMENT)

Daniel 12:1-2KJV

1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

In my previous post I underlined the passage wording in Daniel 12:2, which states many who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake. It does not say everyone who sleeps in the dust shall awake. This passage in Daniel 12:2, in which many shall awake (and not all shall awake) correlates with Revelation 20:5, where only a partial resurrection is described, and not a full resurrection of all until the millennium is expired.

Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

[dad2]

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Paul clearly taught that when Jesus returns the resurrection of the dead takes place, (Then Cometh The End) its that simple (The End) not a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as many "Falsely" claim

Not right away. Some are already raised by the time He returns. Others who face judgment are not raised till after the thousand years are over. Do not conflate events and act as if you have authority. No. You are confused and spamming scriptures that you seem not to understand

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The scripture above is in perfect agreement with Jesus being revealed in fire and brimstone as seen below (Then Cometh The End) as all the unsaved wicked are destroyed at the Lord's return

Actually the first Scripture talked about how that by one Man, Jesus, salvation/resurrection came, as opposed to Adam who brought death. The next verse likewise. Your third verse talked about Jesus being the first to rise from the dead, then later (such as at the Rapture when He returns to gather us) at His coming. That would include any resurrected before the tribulation at the Rapture as well as the believers at His return to the earth after the tribulation. The final verse you posted refers to how He then puts down all rule and authority. That involves the whole millennium.

 So nothing you posted has anything to do with the world being destroyed at His coming!! Nothing.

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The resurrection of "All" is seen below and the wicked are judged to eternal damnation, this is when the "Final Judgement" takes place (The End)

John 5:28-29KJV

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice

The final judgment is after the thousand years. You mix up the times and events.

Revelation 20:5

But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

There is no doubt as to when they are raised to be judged at all.

 

[Locust]

9 minutes ago, luigi said:

Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

i have noticed that Revelation 20:5  is giving all a hard time in understanding whats happing.

[dad2]

10 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Paul clearly taught that when Jesus returns the resurrection of the dead takes place, (Then Cometh The End) its that simple (The End) not a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as many "Falsely" claim

 

No. A resurrection. Not all resurrections. The one cited is the church, believers when He returns. As my last post showed, other dead people are not raised till after the thousand years.

[Locust]

1 minute ago, dad2 said:

till after the thousand years.

no . the resurrection of the dead that will live here on earth begins after Armageddon is complete. something different happens to them after the 1000 years is done .