Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth

[luigi]

53 minutes ago, Locust said:

i have noticed that Revelation 20:5  is giving all a hard time in understanding whats happing.

According to the previous verse in Revelation 20:4, those killed who advocated for the Word, who did not worship the beast or its image are resurrected in the first resurrection. These individuals live and reign with Christ for a thousand years. One problem I'm still having is that during this first resurrection, there are some according to Daniel 12:2, who wake to shame and everlasting contempt. I'm guessing that maybe these individuals who wake to shame and everlasting contempt, may not have overcome their carnal inclinations, while still advocating for the Word.

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Daniel 12:2  And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Edited Wednesday at 08:15 PM by luigi

[dad2]

Just now, Locust said:

no . the resurrection of the dead that will live here on earth begins after Armageddon is complete. something different happens to them after the 1000 years is done .

Support the claim that we will rule over 'resurrected' people in the 1000 years? The resurrected people are us.

[Locust]

8 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Support the claim that we will rule over 'resurrected' people in the 1000 years? The resurrected people are us.

we? no not we . you likely dont even know any that rule with jesus

Edited Wednesday at 08:58 PM by Locust

[Locust]

at this point its not known how many are still to be selected. jesus started selecting people he wanted before he died .they were the 12 

[dad2]

Just now, Locust said:

we? no not we . you likely dont even know any that rule with jesus

We believers, what you thought there was some cult that was special like the JWs? No. We shall rule with Him

 

2 Timothy 2:12

If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

 

Revelation 20:4

Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

Revelation 20:6

Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.

Romans 8:17

And if children, then heirs—heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ

Daniel 7:27
Then the kingdom and dominion,
And the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven,
Shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High.

1 Corinthians 6:1

Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?

Rev 5:9-10 And they *sang a new song, saying, "Worthy are You to take the book and to break its seals; for You were slain, and purchased for God with Your blood men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation. (10) "You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God; and they will reign upon the earth."

Luk 19:15-26 He was made king, however, and returned home. Then he sent for the servants to whom he had given the money, in order to find out what they had gained with it. (16) The first one came and said, 'Sir, your mina has earned ten more.' (17) 'Well done, my good servant!' his master replied. 'Because you have been trustworthy in a very small matter, take charge of ten cities.' (18) The second came and said, 'Sir, your mina has earned five more.' (19) His master answered, 'You take charge of five cities.'

 

 

 

 

 

[dad2]

Just now, Locust said:

at this point its not known how many are still to be selected. jesus started selecting people he wanted before he died .they were the 12 

He chose a lot more than that. Whosoever comes to Him in all ages, He will in no way cast off.

[truth7t7]

2 hours ago, dad2 said:

No. A resurrection. Not all resurrections. The one cited is the church, believers when He returns. As my last post showed, other dead people are not raised till after the thousand years.

I Disagree

As was shown the resurrection of all that have lived takes place at the Lord's second coming (The End) there won't be a 1000 year kingdom on earth following

[truth7t7]

3 hours ago, luigi said:

In my previous post I underlined the passage wording in Daniel 12:2, which states many who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake. It does not say everyone who sleeps in the dust shall awake. This passage in Daniel 12:2, in which many shall awake (and not all shall awake) correlates with Revelation 20:5, where only a partial resurrection is described, and not a full resurrection of all until the millennium is expired.

Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Revelation 20:6 "The First Resurrection" Explained

There will be "Two Future Resurrections" on "The Last Day" the righteous saved are "Blessed" to be in "The First Resurrection" to eternal life, the second death resurrection has no power over the righteous saved

The second death will see the unsaved wicked being in "The Second Resurrection" to eternal damnation in the lake of fire, or the "Second Death"

"The Last Day" Resurrection of "All"

John 6:39-40KJV

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Revelation 20:6KJV

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

1.) The First Resurrection To Eternal Life

2.) The Second Resurrection To Eternal Damnation, Second Death

John 5:28-29KJV

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

(The First Resurrection Of The Righteous Saved) The Dead In Christ Shall Rise "First"

1 Thessalonians 4:16KJV

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

(The Second Resurrection Of The Wicked To The Second Death In Eternal Damnation)

Revelation 20:13-14KJV

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

[Locust]

6 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

where is the lake that death and the graves of mankind(hell) can be put into ?

[luigi]

9 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Revelation 20:6 "The First Resurrection" Explained

There will be "Two Future Resurrections" on "The Last Day" the righteous saved are "Blessed" to be in "The First Resurrection" to eternal life, the second death resurrection has no power over the righteous saved

The second death will see the unsaved wicked being in "The Second Resurrection" to eternal damnation in the lake of fire, or the "Second Death"

"The Last Day" Resurrection of "All"

John 6:39-40KJV

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Revelation 20:6KJV

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

1.) The First Resurrection To Eternal Life

2.) The Second Resurrection To Eternal Damnation, Second Death

John 5:28-29KJV

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

(The First Resurrection Of The Righteous Saved) The Dead In Christ Shall Rise "First"

1 Thessalonians 4:16KJV

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

(The Second Resurrection Of The Wicked To The Second Death In Eternal Damnation)

Revelation 20:13-14KJV

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

If you then recognize the two resurrections; you must then realize that there will be a time separation between the two. I have explained this time space separation with multiple scriptures attesting to it as the millennium.