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Just now, truth7t7 said:

Please make a claim and provide supporting scripture, common courtesy in biblical debate

You've made this claim and that of a pre-trib rapture without supporting scripture "Why"?

Soon as you answer the question we'll look at this one. If not on earth, where do you claim those nations being ruled over are, Mars?


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Just now, truth7t7 said:

You quote Revelation 11:15 suggesting the Lord will rule "This World" on earth, and you disregard the fact that the last day great white throne judgement takes place in Revelation 11:18 in context "Why"?

Yes it is in Revelation. So? Did you think that meant it therefore was not on the planet?


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Just now, truth7t7 said:

You will closely note you haven't provided one scripture reference in support of your claimed pre-trib rapture, because it doesn't exist in scripture

Stop parroting and focus. If the tribulation is wrath and we are not slated to be in wrath, then why claim we would be exactly?


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11 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Angel is not really an angel? The dead are not really dead? What are they, alive? The souls are not souls? What are they cows, fish? God is not God? What is He, a pumpkin? Christ is not Christ? What is He, a tomato? etc etc. Sorry you do not get to spiritualize it alll away.

Yes that explained in Revelation 20:1-6 is 100% in the Lord's spiritual realm, you can create diversion in making jest of biblical truth all you want 

Biblical Truth: Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ, "All Spiritual" 

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12 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Part of the tribulation is the vials. (last part) 

Revelation 15:1
Then I saw in heaven another marvelous event of great significance. Seven angels were holding the seven last plagues, which would bring God's wrath to completion.

God's wrath, yes; the Great Tribulation, no. Please don't add to the Word.

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Just now, truth7t7 said:

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Yes that explained in Revelation 20:1-6 is 100% in the Lord's spiritual realm, you can create diversion in making jest of biblical truth all you want 

Let's look at that then

Revelation 20:1
Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven with the key to the bottomless pit and a heavy chain in his hand.
Revelation 20:2
He seized the dragon—that old serpent, who is the devil, Satan—and bound him in chains for a thousand years.
Revelation 20:3
The angel threw him into the bottomless pit, which he then shut and locked so Satan could not deceive the nations anymore until the thousand years were finished. Afterward he must be released for a little while.
Revelation 20:4
Then I saw thrones, and the people sitting on them had been given the authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony about Jesus and for proclaiming the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his statue, nor accepted his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They all came to life again, and they reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
Revelation 20:5
This is the first resurrection. (The rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years had ended.)
Revelation 20:6

Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. For them the second death holds no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him a thousand years.

 

Of the bolded words in the passage you say nothing is not 100% in the spiritual realm, explain how they are not real??

 


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Just now, WilliamL said:

God's wrath, yes; the Great Tribulation, no. Please don't add to the Word.

The vials are part of the tribulation, once again. Don't take away from the words of the book. They are also the wrath of God and the completion of it. That means it did not just start with the vials, the vials finished it.


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4 minutes ago, dad2 said:

The vials are part of the tribulation, once again. Don't take away from the words of the book.

The words of the book don't mention the Great Tribulation anytime after Rev. 7:14, BEFORE the 7th seal is ever opened, so well before the time of the Trumpets and the Bowls.

Don't add your beliefs to the words of the book.


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11 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Stop parroting and focus. If the tribulation is wrath and we are not slated to be in wrath, then why claim we would be exactly?

The "Sealed Church" is protected from God's wrath upon the earth, as the words of God clearly teaches below, all believers are sealed by God the Holy Spitit, a replay of Moses/Aaron against Pharoah of Egypt

Only those men "Without" God's seal will be tormented

Revelation 9:3-4KJV

3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

Ephesians 1:13KJV

13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 4:30KJV

30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption

Revelation 22:3-4KJV

3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.


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37 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Let's look at that then

Revelation 20:1
Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven with the key to the bottomless pit and a heavy chain in his hand.
Revelation 20:2
He seized the dragon—that old serpent, who is the devil, Satan—and bound him in chains for a thousand years.
Revelation 20:3
The angel threw him into the bottomless pit, which he then shut and locked so Satan could not deceive the nations anymore until the thousand years were finished. Afterward he must be released for a little while.
Revelation 20:4
Then I saw thrones, and the people sitting on them had been given the authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony about Jesus and for proclaiming the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his statue, nor accepted his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They all came to life again, and they reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
Revelation 20:5
This is the first resurrection. (The rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years had ended.)
Revelation 20:6

Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. For them the second death holds no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him a thousand years.

Of the bolded words in the passage you say nothing is not 100% in the spiritual realm, explain how they are not real??

Once again not one word in Revelation 20:1-6 presents a physical literal 1,000 year kingdom on this earth, that seen in your jumbled response is 100% in the Lord's spiritual realm of eternity

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