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On 5/9/2025 at 9:01 AM, truth7t7 said:

The temple seen in Ezekiel Chapters 40-46 is nothing more than the 2nd Zerubbabel Temple built 536BC after the Babylonian Captivity,

"Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the temple.........."
Ezekiel 47:1

But you will say that Ezekiel 47:12 matches Revelation 22:1-2.
So the temple in Ezekiel 47 is somehow not the same one spoken of in 46?
Even though the chapter clearly starts off speaking about that same temple?

Clearly the accounts are different.

In Revelation 22:1-2 the tree of life is female,
and it bears 12 fruits.

In Ezekiel 47:12 there is more than one tree, and they are described as male trees,
that bring forth new fruit each month.

The passages describe two different places.

 

What is being told to us, is that even after everything is over,
and paradise begins, the Lord in His great love allows Satan one last chance
to try to disrupt things, to try to prove Him wrong.
It is that what if something bad happens moment, recorded,
that after 1000 years of paradise Satan is allowed to try to stop it,
and fails. Everything down here is annihilated by divine fire,
and the ultimate pre-planned city comes down to remain for eternity.

 


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5 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

What happens "After" the very final final bit of wrath in the 7th vial?

A Millennial Kingdom On Earth?

The Final Judgement?

Please explain your belief on what takes place "After" the 7th vial?

After the tribulation (of which the vials are the last part) Jesus returns to earth to rule


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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, dad2 said:

After the tribulation (of which the vials are the last part) Jesus returns to earth to rule

Your claim is false, the 7th Vial and 7th Trump are parallel teachings of the end of this physical world, eternity in the NHNE begins

You can repeat your claim 1,000 times it dosent exist in scripture, there won't be a 1,000 year kingdom upon this earth at the return of Jesus as you've been shown several times in your denial, the scripture below clearly refutes your continued claim, before your eyes, simple, clear, easy to understand 

1 Corinthians 15:23-24 Jesus returns in the resurrection (Then Cometh The End) you want your earthly kingdom after the Lord's return "False"

Revelation 16:17KJV

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

Revelation 11:15KJV

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Paul clearly taught that when Jesus returns the resurrection of the dead takes place, (Then Cometh The End) its that simple (The End) not a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as many "Falsely" claim

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The scripture above is in perfect agreement with Jesus being revealed in fire and brimstone as seen below (Then Cometh The End) as all the unsaved wicked are destroyed at the Lord's return

(Destroyed Them All)

Luke 17:29-30KJV

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

The resurrection of "All" is seen below and the wicked are judged to eternal damnation, this is when the "Final Judgement" takes place (The End)

John 5:28-29KJV

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Jesus clearly taught that the resurrection of "All" takes place on "The Last Day" this is in perfect agreement with the scripture above

John 6:39-40KJV

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

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Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

"Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the temple.........."
Ezekiel 47:1

But you will say that Ezekiel 47:12 matches Revelation 22:1-2.
So the temple in Ezekiel 47 is somehow not the same one spoken of in 46?
Even though the chapter clearly starts off speaking about that same temple?

Clearly the accounts are different.

Ezekiel 47:1KJV

1 Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house; and, behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward: for the forefront of the house stood toward the east, and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar.

6 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

In Revelation 22:1-2 the tree of life is female,
and it bears 12 fruits.

In Ezekiel 47:12 there is more than one tree, and they are described as male trees,
that bring forth new fruit each month.

The passages describe two different places.

What is being told to us, is that even after everything is over,
and paradise begins, the Lord in His great love allows Satan one last chance
to try to disrupt things, to try to prove Him wrong.
It is that what if something bad happens moment, recorded,
that after 1000 years of paradise Satan is allowed to try to stop it,
and fails. Everything down here is annihilated by divine fire,
and the ultimate pre-planned city comes down to remain for eternity.

 

Ezekiel Below Is (The Eternal Kingdom) Same River And Tree Of life, Same Fruit On The Tree, Same Leaves Of The Tree For Healing/Medicine, Same Water Flowing From The Sancruary/Throne, Same Gates Of New Jerusalem With The Names Of The 12 Tribes Of Israel

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Ezekiel 47:12KJV

12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Revelation 22:1-2KJV

1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Eternal "New Jerusalem"

Ezekiel 48:31KJV

31 And the gates of the city shall be after the names of the tribes of Israel: three gates northward; one gate of Reuben, one gate of Judah, one gate of Levi.

Revelation 21:12KJV

12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

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Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

"Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the temple.........."
Ezekiel 47:1

But you will say that Ezekiel 47:12 matches Revelation 22:1-2.
So the temple in Ezekiel 47 is somehow not the same one spoken of in 46?
Even though the chapter clearly starts off speaking about that same temple?

Clearly the accounts are different.

In Revelation 22:1-2 the tree of life is female,
and it bears 12 fruits.

In Ezekiel 47:12 there is more than one tree, and they are described as male trees,
that bring forth new fruit each month.

The passages describe two different places.

 

What is being told to us, is that even after everything is over,
and paradise begins, the Lord in His great love allows Satan one last chance
to try to disrupt things, to try to prove Him wrong.
It is that what if something bad happens moment, recorded,
that after 1000 years of paradise Satan is allowed to try to stop it,
and fails. Everything down here is annihilated by divine fire,
and the ultimate pre-planned city comes down to remain for eternity.

 

Ezekiel Chapters 40-46 Represents The 2nd Zerubabbel Temple Built In 536BC

As is clearly shown, Ezekiel Chapter 43 showed the temple "Pattern" to the House of Israel in the Babylonian Captivity let "Them" measure, Ezekiel was instructed to write the ordinances and law in "Their" sight, that "They" keep them, not some future generation as many "Falsely" claim

The temple seen in Ezekiel Chapters 40-46 is nothing more than the 2nd Zerubbabel Temple built 536BC after the Babylonian Captivity, where animal sacrifice for "Sin" was instructed by "God", prior to the shed blood of Jesus Christ on Calvary, don't be deceived

Ezekiel 43:10-11 & 19-21KJV

10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.

11 And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them.

 

19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord God, a young bullock for a sin offering.

20 And thou shalt take of the blood thereof, and put it on the four horns of it, and on the four corners of the settle, and upon the border round about: thus shalt thou cleanse and purge it.

21 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it in the appointed place of the house, without the sanctuary.

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Posted
16 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Your claim is false, the 7th Vial and 7th Trump are parallel teachings of the end of this physical world, eternity in the NHNE begins

You can repeat your claim 1,000 times it dosent exist in scripture, there won't be a 1,000 year kingdom upon this earth at the return of Jesus as you've been shown several times in your denial, the scripture below clearly refutes your continued claim, before your eyes, simple, clear, easy to understand 

1 Corinthians 15:23-24 Jesus returns in the resurrection (Then Cometh The End) you want your earthly kingdom after the Lord's return "False"

Revelation 16:17KJV

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

Revelation 11:15KJV

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Paul clearly taught that when Jesus returns the resurrection of the dead takes place, (Then Cometh The End) its that simple (The End) not a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as many "Falsely" claim

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The scripture above is in perfect agreement with Jesus being revealed in fire and brimstone as seen below (Then Cometh The End) as all the unsaved wicked are destroyed at the Lord's return

(Destroyed Them All)

Luke 17:29-30KJV

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

The resurrection of "All" is seen below and the wicked are judged to eternal damnation, this is when the "Final Judgement" takes place (The End)

John 5:28-29KJV

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Jesus clearly taught that the resurrection of "All" takes place on "The Last Day" this is in perfect agreement with the scripture above

John 6:39-40KJV

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Your claim that only the 7th vial was the wrath was shown to be false. It says the vials of wrath, not the vial of wrath. Just face it


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Posted
2 hours ago, dad2 said:

Your claim that only the 7th vial was the wrath was shown to be false. It says the vials of wrath, not the vial of wrath. Just face it

I never once claimed vials 1-6 wasn't God's wrath as you falsely claim, nothing but diversion 

Yes the 7th vial and 7th Trump are parallel teachings of (The End)


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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, truth7t7 said:

I never once claimed vials 1-6 wasn't God's wrath as you falsely claim, nothing but diversion 

Yes the 7th vial and 7th Trump are parallel teachings of (The End)

So you admit all vials are wrath then. Great. Those are part of (last part) of the tribulation. That would mean that at least some of the trib is wrath.

 

 Since the vials are the culmination or completion of the wrath, there has to be some beginning that gets completed. In other words, if the beginning is in the tribulation then that means the trib is wrath

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Thy kingdom (of God) come is an internal truth ... unless Jesus was wrong with his assement ... 


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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, In1 said:

Thy kingdom (of God) come is an internal truth ... unless Jesus was wrong with his assement ... 

The Holy Bible Clearly teaches that this present earth will be destroyed by fire at the second coming of Jesus Christ 2 Peter 3:10-13KJV

The Holy Bible clearly teaches in Revelation Chapters 21-22KJV that there will be a future (New Creation) in a New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, after this present earth is destroyed by the Lord's fire in judgement at his revealing

 

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