What are the most controversial topics between Christians?

[70x7]

9 hours ago, Marston said:

I don't want that we discuss those here, please. I'm simply asking, what do you believe to be the most controversial topics between Christians?  I'll list a few.

The Millenium

The Rapture

Once saved always saved.

Eternal concious torment (ECT), annihilationism, & universal salvation. 

What else?

True Christian’s agree on everything mentioned in your list. The true Christian understands, teaches and preaches sound doctrine. There are not very many of us on Earth. Our God is not a God of confusion nor is his word.  We don’t argue. Only people who have not made up their minds yet, argue. 
 

(KJV)Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Note the last sentence. 

When the rapture happens there won’t be many of us who get taken up. Certainly not enough so as not to easily have our sudden absence easily explained away to those left behind. 
 

But don’t lose hope the scripture tells us that an innumerable number of people get saved during the tribulation period. So many a man can not count them. 
 

https://www.blueletterbible.org/assets-v3/images/svg/copyChkboxOff.svgRev 7:9 - After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number,of all nations, and kindreds, and people, andtongues, stood before the throne, and beforethe Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palmsin their hands;

the fear of the Lord is the beginning. We are instructed to study the word of truth so as not to be ashamed of to bring shame to the word of truth. Sound doctrine is not multi choice folks. 
 

God bless. 

[Marston]

48 minutes ago, 70x7 said:

The true Christian understands...sound doctrine. 

My grandmother believed in Jesus and demonstrated her belief in how she lived her life, especially in how she treated others. Her only "doctrine" was to love Jesus and one another. I promise she had no knowledge of the various doctrines being mentioned in this thread. Was she not a "true Christian"?

 

Galatians 5:13-14 ESV 

For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Edited March 9 by Marston

[70x7]

35 minutes ago, Marston said:

My grandmother believed in Jesus and demonstrated her belief in how she lived her life, especially in how she treated others. Her only "doctrine" was to love Jesus and one another. I promise she had no knowledge of the various doctrines being mentioned in this thread. Was she not a "true Christian"?

 

Galatians 5:13-14 ESV 

For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

No offence dude but Christianity is the Bible. EVERY WORD OF IT.   Not stories about your granny.

I love my granny too, she went to church every week was the nicest person I ever new. But when I shared the gospel with her she would not accept Jesus as saviour because she didn’t think she was good enough so sadly she’s probably in hell. 
 

“doctrine” is not a dirty word.  It simply means instruction or teaching. So therefore sound doctrine means correct  instruction or teaching. The Bible is very clear on the correct teaching and instruction on the listed subjects in the original post. Again it’s not multi choice. There is the correct biblical teaching and then there is the false teaching. Those who believe false teaching are not Christians no matter how much they claim to or want to believe they are and frankly no matter how nice they are to the next door neighbour. 
 

Does believing false doctrine mean you aren’t saved? Well no, not if you are saved. You can still get from a to b believing you’re driving a porche even though it’s actually a morris minor. 
 

Finally and again no offence, your question about your granny is off topic because not I nor any other Christian is able to pass judgement on your granny but I think you know that already 
 

what about you are you saved? Are you rapture ready? 
 

 

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[AnOrangeCat]

2 hours ago, Marston said:

My grandmother believed in Jesus and demonstrated her belief in how she lived her life, especially in how she treated others. Her only "doctrine" was to love Jesus and one another. I promise she had no knowledge of the various doctrines being mentioned in this thread. Was she not a "true Christian"?

Only God knows for sure but my educated guess based on what you've said is that she was doing it right. The two great commandments pop up a lot in the Bible. Jesus spoke of them they're in the verse you cited, and James 2:8. Even if we make mistakes or experience failures in our implementation of it more often than not it's a way of living that will bear good fruit.

[FriendofJonathan]

3 hours ago, Marston said:

My grandmother believed in Jesus and demonstrated her belief in how she lived her life, especially in how she treated others. Her only "doctrine" was to love Jesus and one another. I promise she had no knowledge of the various doctrines being mentioned in this thread. Was she not a "true Christian"?

 

Galatians 5:13-14 ESV 

For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Amen. You can profess to know all the biblical doctrine there is to know, and recite scripture after scripture to advance your knowledge of doctrine.  But unless you know and havr faith in Jesus Christ, all your knowledge of doctrine won't save you. 

[JohnD]

Anything doctrinal...

[In the Clouds]

Human Judgements

The Trinity

Pride

Old Covenant vs New Covenant

Who is a Jew?

Who will be saved?

[The_Patriot21]

4 hours ago, 70x7 said:

No offence dude but Christianity is the Bible. EVERY WORD OF IT.   Not stories about your granny.

I love my granny too, she went to church every week was the nicest person I ever new. But when I shared the gospel with her she would not accept Jesus as saviour because she didn’t think she was good enough so sadly she’s probably in hell. 
 

“doctrine” is not a dirty word.  It simply means instruction or teaching. So therefore sound doctrine means correct  instruction or teaching. The Bible is very clear on the correct teaching and instruction on the listed subjects in the original post. Again it’s not multi choice. There is the correct biblical teaching and then there is the false teaching. Those who believe false teaching are not Christians no matter how much they claim to or want to believe they are and frankly no matter how nice they are to the next door neighbour. 
 

Does believing false doctrine mean you aren’t saved? Well no, not if you are saved. You can still get from a to b believing you’re driving a porche even though it’s actually a morris minor. 
 

Finally and again no offence, your question about your granny is off topic because not I nor any other Christian is able to pass judgement on your granny but I think you know that already 
 

what about you are you saved? Are you rapture ready? 
 

 

Before you pass judgement on anyone's salvation, you might ask yourself if it is you missing the point. Yes, the Bible is the inspired word of God. Yes, all sound doctrine comes from it.

However, the point of it, is love. Love for God. The Bible doesn't say "obey and understand all of my doctrines" and enter the kingdom of heaven, it says to believe  in Jesus and you will be saved. That's it. That's the bottom line. If you miss the love, then the rest is meaningless.

1 Corinthians 13:1-3

 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing.

[missmuffet]

When I first saw the topic of this OP I thought there might be some problems with

some anger from posters.

[missmuffet]

4 hours ago, 70x7 said:

No offence dude but Christianity is the Bible. EVERY WORD OF IT.   Not stories about your granny.

I love my granny too, she went to church every week was the nicest person I ever new. But when I shared the gospel with her she would not accept Jesus as saviour because she didn’t think she was good enough so sadly she’s probably in hell. 
 

“doctrine” is not a dirty word.  It simply means instruction or teaching. So therefore sound doctrine means correct  instruction or teaching. The Bible is very clear on the correct teaching and instruction on the listed subjects in the original post. Again it’s not multi choice. There is the correct biblical teaching and then there is the false teaching. Those who believe false teaching are not Christians no matter how much they claim to or want to believe they are and frankly no matter how nice they are to the next door neighbour. 
 

Does believing false doctrine mean you aren’t saved? Well no, not if you are saved. You can still get from a to b believing you’re driving a porche even though it’s actually a morris minor. 
 

Finally and again no offence, your question about your granny is off topic because not I nor any other Christian is able to pass judgement on your granny but I think you know that already 
 

what about you are you saved? Are you rapture ready? 
 

 

Isn't that somewhat abrasive?