Yes, Jesus meant TODAY in his message to the thief on the cross

[Your closest friendnt]

8 minutes ago, Locust said:

I cant help it that you have been lied to about how Jesus was hungup . religion has adulterated things 

The point is no matter what everyone wants to say the truth is that Jesus Christ died on the Cross that day in the way Romans executed people that time. This is the bottom line. And I do not question what people believe about that. That's between them and God. 

But my prayer is to come to faith abd believe. 

Edited April 24 by Your closest friendnt

[DeighAnn]

4717  crucified -  which comes from the Greek noun stauros -  meaning "cross."

[DeighAnn]

Also, the Romans didn't really care who 'Jesus' was, to them he was just another prophet of the Jews and wasn't saying anything in regard to Cesar and power.    If it weren't for the leaders of the Jews bringing the charges against Him, they wouldn't have even gone after Him (not at that time, anyhow).  SO, changing from the way they ALWAYS crucified people to some 'special' type just for Christ makes no sense either.  

 

[Locust]

13 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

crucified

did I use the word  crucified ?

[farouk]

59 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Why the Roman's had not discovered yet the Cross  bar.

Because they nailed the people hands and feet to the Cross and let them hang this way. And they put a small stand for his feet to be nailed on. I am not there but the Romans that's what they did. Do you want to argue about the word they used. And how high?

The JWs claim that the Lord Jesus was impaled, not crucified. The word cross does definitely occur in Philippians 2.

[Your closest friendnt]

26 minutes ago, Locust said:

did I use the word  crucified ?

If someone says that Jesus Christ died and the source is the Bible it it implies that he dies by Crusifiction.

 When you are talking about Jesus and how he died and the source of information is from the Bible  the word crucified is implied. Because this is what it says it happened. Unless your info do not come from the Bible. 

 

[Jaydub]

3 hours ago, farouk said:

The JWs claim that the Lord Jesus was impaled, not crucified. The word cross does definitely occur in Philippians 2.

I don't think that is correct. They believe he was killed on a torcher stake, one nail through both hands, but John 20:25 seems to dis prove that.

25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!”

But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.”

[Locust]

a cross would likely be far more  torturous as it would last for days not a few hours, .jesus had to be dead in hours . = pole no cross bar

[Your closest friendnt]

6 minutes ago, farouk said:

The JWs claim that the Lord Jesus was impaled, not crucified. The word cross does definitely occur in Philippians 2.

The Jews shouted crucified him crucified him because they knew how was the public executions of the Romans. 

And if there are some Jews who say that. Can anyone tell them not to say that when they are not friends or Jesus Christ. 

Jesus Christ showed the wounds in his hands and his feet and his side. 

Those Jews said that after learning the event of Thomas and Jesus and the disciples right after the resurrection to create a doubt that he was not the real Jesus Christ. That his wounds must have been different. They do not love Jesus Christ and they do not hide it. They say we speak badly about him and he is not punishing us. If he was the truth God we would have been punished by now. 

 

[Locust]

1 minute ago, Your closest friendnt said:

The Jews shouted crucified him crucified him because they knew how was the public executions of the Romans. 

And if there are some Jews who say that. Can anyone tell them not to say that when they are not friends or Jesus Christ. 

Jesus Christ showed the wounds in his hands and his feet and his side. 

Those Jews said that after learning the event of Thomas and Jesus and the disciples right after the resurrection to create a doubt that he was not the real Jesus Christ. That his wounds must have been different. They do not love Jesus Christ and they do not hide it. They say we speak badly about him and he is not punishing us. If he was the truth God we would have been punished by now. 

 

oh, you were there?