Resurrection Sunday

[other one]

4 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

Ok. Does the Catholic church do this? The Orthodox? It seems to me the issue is how the church views these "cultural things". Harmless fun for children or not? But a look at what all the original Church does is a good indication of the original focus of the holiday. 

You say it is harmless fun, I say it is not. It's the way pagan goddess was worshiped, and we should not be doing it ourselves, especially to/with children.  There are demonic influences that go along with these things whether or not people realize it.

[Anne2]

8 minutes ago, other one said:

You say it is harmless fun, I say it is not. It's the way pagan goddess was worshiped, and we should not be doing it ourselves, especially to/with children.  There are demonic influences that go along with these things whether or not people realize it.

I never gave my opinion one way or another. So you disagree it is harmless fun...... Others did not. There are cups for Elijah, for the kids at the seder, a cup for mariam. I remember the first time I read that, it kind of reminded me of leaving milk and cookies for Santa. In Judaism it was some fun to distract from hours long service. The point is, it is not part of the Christian Church teachings nor a part of their services. You don't like it, don't do it. When the children are grown ( I knew before first grade) they put away childish things. And so we did.

Edited April 22 by Anne2

[other one]

1 minute ago, Anne2 said:

I never gave my opinion one way or another. So you disagree it is harmless fun...... Others did not. There are cups for Elijah, for the kids at the seder, a cup for marium. I remeber the first time i read that it kind of reminded me of leaving milk and cookies for Santa. The point is it is not part of the Christian Church teachings nor a part of their services. You don't like it, don't do it.

My brother hired a man to dress up as Santa and deliver their presents on Christmas Eve, just as the kids were going to bed. Made me rather speechless when he bragged about it.

[Anne2]

Just now, other one said:

My brother hired a man to dress up as Santa and deliver their presents on Christmas Eve, just as the kids were going to bed. Made me rather speechless when he bragged about it.

Then don't do it. It offends you. 

[JohnD]

On 4/21/2025 at 12:48 PM, Anne2 said:

This saddens me...

Gentiles are forbidden to eat the "Jewish" Passover. Paul was accused of bringing a Gentiles into the temple, and denied he ever did such a thing. Gentiles did not eat the Jewish Passover.

As for EASTER, The word comes from the German "ostern", as early morning, or dawn, or....as I grew up hearing the term Sunrise services.....

As also often "east" refereed to the direction of the sunrising...Sometimes just "from old" or "ancient". It is variously used..

De 33:15  And for the chief things of the ancient 06924 mountains, and for the precious things of the lasting hills,

06924 קדם qedem keh’-dem or קדמה qedmah kayd’-maw

from 06923; n m/adv; [BDB-869b, BDB-870a] {See TWOT on 1988 @@ "1988a"}

AV-east 32, old 17, eastward 11, ancient 6, east side 5, before 3, east part 2, ancient time 2, aforetime 1, eternal 1, misc 7; 87

n m
1) east, antiquity, front, that which is before, aforetime
1a) front, from the front or east, in front, mount of the East
1b) ancient time, aforetime, ancient, from of old, earliest time
1c) anciently, of old (adverb)
1d) beginning
1e) east

adv
2) eastward, to or toward the East 

Mt 2:2  Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.
Mt 2:9 ¶  When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.
Lu 1:78  Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us,

Re 2:28  And I will give him the morning star. (east star)
Re 22:16  I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Earliest Roman sources on Christianity

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Pliny the younger report to the Emporor Trajan...7. Yet they affirmed that this was the sum total of their crime and their error: that they were accustomed on a certain day to meet before daylight, and to take turns reciting a song to Christ, as if to a god, and to bind themselves in a sacred oath (sacramentum)--not in any criminal act, but that they would not commit theft or robbery or adultery, and that they would not break faith, and that they would not deny a deposit when it was called due. When these were finished, it was their custom to separate and come together again to share a meal, entirely common and harmless

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simple meal the eucharist...

Interesting thing in the Greek

Zec 6:12  And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD: 

The Greek for branch, is EAST....the direction with which the days Grows light, the sun rising. the Day springs....

The east star, German ostern

Nu 24:17  I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth.

Re 22:16  I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

I understand not liking some traditions, I do. But examine these things, to not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

And the pagan fertility symbols of bunnies and colored eggs? And the yule log and mistletoe while you're at it?

I've studied and heard all the lame excuses to mask the compromise and influx of paganism into the faith.

[Anne2]

4 minutes ago, JohnD said:

And the pagan fertility symbols of bunnies and colored eggs? And the yule log and mistletoe while you're at it?

I've studied and heard all the lame excuses to mask the compromise and influx of paganism into the faith.

Since I do not consider these as pagans, I do not see them masking some secret paganism.

I think they believe the following

1 Cor 8:6  But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. {in: or, for }

7 ¶  Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.

God knows the heart..

The believer vs unbeliever.

Tit 1:15  Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
16  They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

[other one]

5 hours ago, Anne2 said:

Then don't do it. It offends you. 

I don't...

[Edward429451]

2 hours ago, Anne2 said:

Since I do not consider these as pagans, I do not see them masking some secret paganism.

I think they believe the following

1 Cor 8:6  But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. {in: or, for }

7 ¶  Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.

God knows the heart..

The believer vs unbeliever.

Tit 1:15  Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
16  They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

 

With all due respect, I think that thinking like that is dangerous and you should ponder your participation more to reconsider your position. 

The Easter bunny and colored eggs are pagan. If you being a child of God, desire to not be deceived by these things. Ponder it and pray about it.

 

Remember when God  was going to destroy Sodom & Gomorrah? he asked God, Lord if 10 righteous be found there will you spare the place for the righteous? And God said yes. (Or maybe it was 5 righteous?)

That's not very many righteous people and it did not stop the Lord from destroying it. The underlying lesson here, is that some of the people who were not of the sodomites and gays and yet they accepted them as neighbors. Live and let let live? 

But the truth is, when us half wit christians participate in the pagan holidays even still holding to God, but they color some eggs for their kids or buy them some presents on Christmas, that they are essentially coming into an agreement with whatever evil entity/spirit is behind that paganism, and that dear Sister, is turning our backs to God. 

You can't have an easter egg hunt, that's weirdo stuff in God's eyes. Don't participate and come into agreement with those spirits. If you want to do something for your kids then you can still do that without the pagan crap. Buy them an outfit if you want, buy them some candy. They are your kids. But don't talk about Easter eggs. Talk about the Lord! 

Last Christmas my retired brother asked me did you get me a present for Christmas? (I didn't). I said, why? It's not your Birthday, it's Jesus Birthday! 

So applying that lesson as a biblical principle to Easter about Sodom & Gomorrah by coloring easter eggs and trick or treating or whatever is dangerous and may get you get you killed. That's what the 3(?) righteous people in Sodom found out, who werent gay but was in agreement with them. 

[Edward429451]

I know one really bad easter riddle.

Why does the easter bunny hide the eggs? 

He doesn't want it found out that he's been sexually immoral. 

(Told you).

[Anne2]

6 hours ago, Edward429451 said:

With all due respect, I think that thinking like that is dangerous and you should ponder your participation more to reconsider your position. 

The Easter bunny and colored eggs are pagan. If you being a child of God, desire to not be deceived by these things. Ponder it and pray about it.

I did not say I participated either. I said I don't consider those who do as pagans. Those things are not a Church easter service,. I got my Grandsons small stuffed bunies, a chocolate bunnh, a card with some money for easter. I did not participate in paganism doing so.

Edited April 23 by Anne2