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The trump of God (1Co 15:52, 1 Th 4:16) is a singular trump and is a call to believers for a group or personal event in time to ascend and be with the Lord overcoming death, yet in Revelation the 7th trumpet is a series of trumps and is for judgment and God‘s wrath. 

1Th 5:9  For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 
1Th 5:10  Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him


In 1Co 15:52 and 1Th 4:16, both trumps are a high calling to the body of Christ resulting in ascension to be with the Lord (Joh 14:3)and a transfiguration into a body eternal in the heavens. The personal event is every man in his own order at death and is the trump of God, and the group event is they that are Christ’s at His coming in the air and is the last trump for those that remain (1Co 15:23).

In context Paul is speaking of those that God will bring with Christ (1Th 4:14) and then those that are alive and remain will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air and (2Co 15:52).

Paul spoke of the death of believers who have the high calling (Php 3:14-21) as being absent from the physical body and present with the Lord in glory with the Father (2Co 5: 1-8), this transfiguration happens in the twinkling of an eye (1Co 15:52), meaning we will never see death (Joh 8:51, 11:26). The physical body dies and is left behind and we will receive a spiritual body eternal in the heavens (2Co 5:1). This new body has always been in heaven eternally and it is part of the mystery Paul revealed in 1Co 15:51, resurrection of the flesh was certainly not a mystery at that time. The mystery is a rising or ascension leaving the corrupt physical body behind. It will be as Job said…  All flesh shall perish together, and man shall turn again unto dust (34:15).    

1Co 15:50  Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Corruption is in sinful flesh through Adam and it will not inherit incorruption or glorification (1Co 15:44-45).   
 
1Co 15:51  Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 
1Co 15:52  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

The sleeping Paul referred to (1Th 4:14) who are absent from the physical body and present with the Lord received their new eternal body in the heavens (2Co 5:1-8). 
 
1Co 15:53  For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 
1Co 15:54  So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 

1Th 4:14  For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him
1Th 4:15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 
1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first
1Th 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 
1Th 4:18  Wherefore comfort one another with these words. 

The sequence of events… those that die in Christ rise first in their own order and are the ones that God will send with Christ when He leaves glory then those that are alive and remain will be caught up leaving their physical body behind to meet them in the clouds. Paul is consistent with His teaching, when the physical body of the earth is put off, those in His Body as members, receive their glorified body that is eternal in the heavens (2Co 5:1) .  

1Co 15:44  It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 
1Co 15:45  And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit
1Co 15:46  Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 
1Co 15:47  The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. 
1Co 15:48  As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. 
1Co 15:49  And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. 

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Indeed it will be an AWESOME event!

So . . . on an side note . . . what kind of trumpet(s) does the Lord have?  Trumpet, or coronet, flugel horn, trombone, other various forms of brass or precious metal instruments?

I see that Revelation has Angels that were given trumpets to blow at various times . . . . 


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40 minutes ago, Ray12614 said:

Indeed it will be an AWESOME event!

So . . . on an side note . . . what kind of trumpet(s) does the Lord have?  Trumpet, or coronet, flugel horn, trombone, other various forms of brass or precious metal instruments?

I see that Revelation has Angels that were given trumpets to blow at various times . . . . 

You tell me, it is described as a shout, the trump of God and the voice of the archangel. I prefer strings….


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Bugle call ----  charge!


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8 hours ago, Ray12614 said:

So . . . on an side note . . . what kind of trumpet(s) does the Lord have?  Trumpet, or coronet, flugel horn, trombone, other various forms of brass or precious metal instruments?

The trumpet of judgment blown at the descent of YHWH upon Mount Sinai during the Exodus was a ram's horn/shofar. Ex. 19:19 

I expect the Last "Trumpet" will be the same.

2. The Last Shofar: The Latter Horn of Redemption

Provides the Hebraic origin of, and explanation for, Paul’s use of the term “the Last Trumpet” in 1 Corinthians 15:51; then explains its connection to Paul’s often-ignored Rapture prophecy in Hebrews 12:18-28. https://worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/840-the-last-shofar-the-latter-horn-of-redemption/

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