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I was talking to some brothers and they talk about what is biblical and how to discern biblical material. Some can't tell what is biblical because some say it based solely on the truth but others say that truth from the world. Like saying material and real world standards ? Others on what the prophets say ? Or what God and his standards but as I talk to people I notice they do not know and sometimes they don't realize what is the correct way to say what is biblical becuase for some just saying verses and if they say it in english it is not how it is said in hebrew and meaning changed.

 

I have met those obstacles but some brothers have said things like the examples what said and others said things that are not even biblical and some says standards from the world that they said they should count. Wish to talk so we can go and put things in biblical standards and put God's standards and how he wants he's will shown how biblically we must find what he will judge it.

 

We will see thru love that he says it, sometimes love is biblical way and it is how you discern it.

 

Then we will see thru law and see that sometimes the strictness of law is for a purpose.

 

I have the verses and will find people that biblical discern isn't always that verses agree with each other but to find God's will and discern and will find hiddes things and secrets of the bible ! We need to go and see God's logic and not our own because God is not like us and he a being who is higher than us. And what he wants sometimes is that we have tests and pass time sometimes and wait so we can be worthy and do his will. It is hard tings we talk but thru going thru hard things and tests in life God will reveal to us his secrets. Please give your opinion and soon will post verses and know that he's will and love is how he uses for us to discern wisdom and from wisdom of the bible or biblical wisdom we can use to find the method that is God's that he's biblical way and correct perception. I know the right perception he has and truth,love, and discerning his will according to what he wants sometimes we must go thru the hard things of the bible !

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Sometimes it can help to have a framework through which the bible can be better understood. Here is a short article that I found that can help from christianpioneer,con

Plan “F”?

 
 

God created heaven and earth perfect. This was plan “A” When Satan’s pride led him to rebel against God and take a third of the angles with him, God had plan “B”. When Adam and Eve sinned, plan “C” went into effect. However, just a few generations after Adam and Eve people became so wicked (amplified by angelic interference) that the world was destroyed with a flood and only eight people were saved. This brought us to plan “D”. However, with the Tower of Babble, it was apparent that a more direct means of getting people to know about their creator, God, and the need for faith a plan “E” was needed. The nation of Israel was supposed to be a nation of priests who would bring the knowledge of God to the whole world.

God put an awful lot of work into plan “E”. The Old Testament of the bible is almost all about What Israel was supposed to do, promises to Israel about the future, and a continual record of their disregard for God. Sending Jesus as the promised Messiah was the culmination of the plan of God to offer a way back to eternal life that was lost by Adam and Eve. Since Israel did not accept the kingdom offered by Jesus at his ministry to the nation, dramatic circumstances will be brought on earth such that a faithful remnant of Israel will be persuaded to received the kingdom. However, this cataclysmic event will not happen until after plan “F” has run its course.

The nation of Israel was supposed to receive the gospel of the kingdom and her king, Jesus, and subsequently bring the knowledge of God to the world. This knowledge instead was spread by those through the gospel of the grace of God introduced by Paul who was called to be an apostle to the gentiles. This might be called plan “F”. When the full number of the gentiles come in, plan “G” would be established where Jesus returns to earth and rules as king from Jerusalem for 1,000 years.

These various plans are not the result of God not having control (being all knowing he knew that we would fall short), but of his allowing humans and angles to have free will. The angels were created all at once and with knowledge. They made their choice all at once. Humans are born sequentially and in ignorance. As a result, God endures the evils that result from bad choices until he can harvest a “crop” of those that surrender to his will.

Some call these “plans” covenants or dispensations. However, these names can be misleading. The world “plan” can also be misleading. It does convey that God is in charge, however, it fails to convey that they might better be called opportunities. Each of these “plans” demonstrate that no matter what the circumstances, most people will ultimately reject God and seek to go their own way. God structured our redemption to be based on faith (trust). Trust is given to that which is true. Israel would keep their laws when they trusted God as a demonstration of faith. Today with plan “F” those who trust in Jesus and his payment on the cross for our sins are regenerated unto the eternal life that is in Christ, can have the Holy Spirit make them better people, and have access to the wisdom of God..

Rom 11:12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

 

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On 4/5/2025 at 5:59 AM, grumix8 said:

I was talking to some brothers and they talk about what is biblical and how to discern biblical material

Surely you ask who ever is talking about biblical subjects for the chapter and verse of what they are talking about.

Something that is ' biblical ' is based on verses in the bible. So whoever is arguing  that ' x ' is biblical should start with the bible.

" Decern " biblical material!  Don't  you just read it and compare it to other parts of the bible that talk about the same subject.

It helps to have a good Bible knowledge, try in addition to what ever daily readings/bible study you do, to also try reading through the Bible in a year.

That involves reading at least 4 chapters a day. It's worthy doing as it builds up one's overall view of the bible.

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On 4/4/2025 at 11:59 PM, grumix8 said:

I was talking to some brothers and they talk about what is biblical and how to discern biblical material. Some can't tell what is biblical because some say it based solely on the truth but others say that truth from the world.

X (Twitter) has a new AI computer (grok) that one can access that has a very good understanding of Hebrew-Greek and the grammar along with historical data that I am finding useful in those cases where it seems there are inconsistencies of scripture.

Helps like Strong's and other dictionaries are helpful but sometimes the sentence structure and grammar help to pick out the different possible meanings for an individual word.

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We go with the simple becuase I know 2 and 3 verses that perfectly explain the biblical God says and not we we humans say. It is important no matter what we do things he ways it is hard. Here we will see that biblical is doing his words and commands and remember is one things the words he said and he wants us to obey and love. The most important thing is the bible is his commands and order but we must see that 3 verses help us find the discernemnt God wants us to have and will help us in the future.

"If you fully obey the Lord your God and carefully follow all his commands I give you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations on earth" (Deuteronomy 11:13).
 

We have one and soon will put verses that in correct order that show the original way God said what was biblical to him and we do things he's way. Good things coming.

 
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