This is war?

[farouk]

I'm trying to remember if it was VP Cheney or security advisor Cofer Black (or whoever) who said that some of the CIA's allies in Afghanistan after 9/11 were 'not people you would sit next to in church'.

(Mind you, I'm not sure whether VP Cheney or Cofer Black - he of wanting 'flies walking across eyeballs' fame - themselves would identify closely with any church activities, either.)

[Luther]

1 hour ago, Edward429451 said:

Ok I'll bite, who? I know you're going to say Israel. That's prolly propaganda but even still, at some point they did turn against Israel and begin killing Israel's people. God's people. 

I am already really surprised that presumably (?) you are a Christian man (?) and seem to be looking to come against Israel and vilify them. I think that's odd. If you were a Hamas member it wouldn't surprise me as that's what they do! But sadly for them, they bit off more than they can chew and would like to call a time out. Lol. 

When I was a kid and got into fights at school, the strategy was overcme the attacker and get him down and beat him down until I was assured that when he got up, he only wanted to go nurse his wounds and not fight anymore. It worked pretty good for me! Won some lost some.  

That's all Israe; is doing on a bigger scale, which is how any military normally operates. Well, Israel's tired of their attacks, so is beating them down so they can't fight if they get back up. If they can't kill them all then let them only escape with their lives and two of them left with one pistol, 9 rounds and no misses. 

That's how war works brother. There's no such thing as a fair fight, if you swing on me I'm going to use all that is at my disposal to fight back. Two guys who tried to strong arm rob me & my pregnant wife were dumb enough to not bring any weapons to the fight. I won easily and zero shots fired, lol! 

Nothing wrong with that so Israel isn't the bad guy in that war going on over there. I believe that you are rooting for the wrong team. 

You're questioning if I'm a Christian man and you say this:

"If they can't kill them all ......"

You notice the women and children being killed? Tens of thousands of them? These are not the rules of engagement other nations (with a conscience) commit. It's actually demonic. It certainly doesn't have God's blessing.

 

[George]

@Luther, you wonder how Hamas got its start.  You should investigate it's leaders connection to Nazi Germany.  I'm not sure you truly understand the spirit that is driving the anti-semitism -- it's all connected!  The fact that there is a spirit that hates anything that God loves ... should point you to the fact that the Father is very active in this restoration plan you are participating in! 

https://www.danielgreenfield.org/2023/12/the-nazi-roots-of-hamas.html

The idea that Israel created Hamas demonstrates a need to study its history!

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231115-did-israel-create-hamas/

[Edward429451]

8 hours ago, Luther said:

You're questioning if I'm a Christian man and you say this:

"If they can't kill them all ......"

You notice the women and children being killed? Tens of thousands of them? These are not the rules of engagement other nations (with a conscience) commit. It's actually demonic. It certainly doesn't have God's blessing.

 

It just that you sound like you're on Hamas's side, so I wondered. That little thing that toggles a persons info didnt have you listed as a Christian. I got yelled at on another board once for assuming that some guy was a Christian, and he wasnt so he took offense. What you want me to do? 

Don't be thin skinned brother. I still don't know for sure, do I? You didn't admit it, so what's a guy to do? Can I ask you a light hearted question? If you were charged with Felonious Christendom, is there enough evidence to convict you? :)

So women and children have been killed, and you think I am able to make a judgment call about that? Are you insinuating that Israel has killed tens of thousands of women and children? Have you ever read your old testament? God instructed them to kill all of certain people groups, including women and children...God's ways are above my ways, so how could you presume that I would be able to 2nd guess God? I'm not there, I'm in the US and we're about to be annihilated because Trump has the world angry. How long can that last? And I know what's really going on Israel? Lol! Good one brother! 

[Edward429451]

53 minutes ago, George said:

@Luther, you wonder how Hamas got its start.  You should investigate it's leaders connection to Nazi Germany.  I'm not sure you truly understand the spirit that is driving the anti-semitism -- it's all connected!  The fact that there is a spirit that hates anything that God loves ... should point you to the fact that the Father is very active in this restoration plan you are participating in! 

https://www.danielgreenfield.org/2023/12/the-nazi-roots-of-hamas.html

The idea that Israel created Hamas demonstrates a need to study its history!

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231115-did-israel-create-hamas/

 

Thank you Brother George, I suspected as much but had no personal knowledge about it! 

[Luther]

2 hours ago, Edward429451 said:

It just that you sound like you're on Hamas's side, so I wondered. That little thing that toggles a persons info didnt have you listed as a Christian. I got yelled at on another board once for assuming that some guy was a Christian, and he wasnt so he took offense. What you want me to do? 

Don't be thin skinned brother. I still don't know for sure, do I? You didn't admit it, so what's a guy to do? Can I ask you a light hearted question? If you were charged with Felonious Christendom, is there enough evidence to convict you? :)

So women and children have been killed, and you think I am able to make a judgment call about that? Are you insinuating that Israel has killed tens of thousands of women and children? Have you ever read your old testament? God instructed them to kill all of certain people groups, including women and children...God's ways are above my ways, so how could you presume that I would be able to 2nd guess God? I'm not there, I'm in the US and we're about to be annihilated because Trump has the world angry. How long can that last? And I know what's really going on Israel? Lol! Good one brother! 

You said: "  If you were charged with Felonious Christendom, is there enough evidence to convict you? :)"

Sometimes I wonder. That's actually a good question. Need to put salvation back on the top 10, at #1. I believe the Lord brings us the opportunity to speak on His behalf, but we have to be prepared in our hearts and minds. Lately I've been to one sided with responding to what's going on now. All these things must come to pass. 

[Edward429451]

3 hours ago, Luther said:

You said: "  If you were charged with Felonious Christendom, is there enough evidence to convict you? :)"

Sometimes I wonder. That's actually a good question. Need to put salvation back on the top 10, at #1. I believe the Lord brings us the opportunity to speak on His behalf, but we have to be prepared in our hearts and minds. Lately I've been to one sided with responding to what's going on now. All these things must come to pass. 

You have been seeming to be one sided! 

[other one]

4 minutes ago, Edward429451 said:

You have been seeming to be one sided! 

I noticed that also.

[Luther]

1 hour ago, Edward429451 said:

You have been seeming to be one sided! 

I do not look at Israel like most Christians do. I believe the church has been indoctrinated to accept these people in Israel as having a purpose in God's plan of salvation. Nada. They have as much semitic blood in them as you and I do. 

You must repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ before He comes, because the true Biblical end time teaching is when Jesus comes, it's the end of the world. No additional thousand years on this earth for Israel ( or anyone else "left" after the " rapture" ) to get right with God.

It's talmudic propaganda..... that's what they believe, and they want the support of Christians. They want the world to turn a blind eye as they are in the process of taking it over, Noahyde laws and all. 

We have been brainwashed since 9/11 to be afraid of Muslims. They never affected us in any way. Who benefits from the never ending "war on terror "?

 

[Luther]

1 hour ago, other one said:

I noticed that also.

Hey guys, I can understand why a lot of Christians feel the way they do, if they believe that a Christ rejecting group of people somehow has relevance in the age of the New Covenant. They don't, because all of the promises in the OT regarding an eternal inheritance of land ( a.k.a. the kingdom of God), belong to Christians like you and I. 

In God's plan of salvation, there is absolutely no significance in who you are or where you came from. I believe the churches are under strong delusion to think that there is a special type of person in God's sight, other than those chosen to eternal life.

I have to remind myself that all that is going on is part of God's plan. 

Edited April 16 by Luther
Changed a word.