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2 hours ago, In1 said:

We would have to say (if Adam and Eve are the Father and mother of all living) that we are all born out of incest ...

I don't agree.  God's prohibition of incest didn't come until the Mosaic Law.  And there was no other way to expand the human race, since A & E were the first couple.  Everyone comes from that couple.

ANd Gen 3:16 prevents any claims of humans before A & E.


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2 hours ago, In1 said:

And to add injury to insult ... I believe there is a difference in being called (ie woman) and being named ...

Could you explain this?  I don't see any difference.


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2 hours ago, In1 said:

John 3:16 😊

No, Gen 3:16


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7 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

I don't agree.  God's prohibition of incest didn't come until the Mosaic Law.  And there was no other way to expand the human race, since A & E were the first couple.  Everyone comes from that couple.

ANd Gen 3:16 prevents any claims of humans before A & E.

Cain married his sister ...

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22 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

Could you explain this?  I don't see any difference.

We receive a stone with a name no one knows but he who receives it ... when Adam called her woman (taken from a rib/becoming the door) he was issuing a precept that can be followed throughout scripture where a second man is peirced in the side ...

There is obviously more to this ... coming out of something ...

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29 minutes ago, In1 said:

Cain married his sister ...

That would be true, or Gen 3:16 cannot be true.


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30 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

No, Gen 3:16

This verse like many of another share a connection with John 3:16 ... as there are two seeds, there are two women.


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1 minute ago, FreeGrace said:

That would be true, or Gen 3:16 cannot be true.

How very true ... Was incest a sin to God?

Reasoning with our Father as an absolute, or something unmovable yelds truths in us that quickly become beyond measure.


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5 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

I don't agree.  God's prohibition of incest didn't come until the Mosaic Law.  And there was no other way to expand the human race, since A & E were the first couple.  Everyone comes from that couple.

ANd Gen 3:16 prevents any claims of humans before A & E.

That's Ken Ham's favorite 'there's a Book'


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On 5/11/2025 at 11:47 AM, In1 said:

How did you arrive at this conclusion?

13.7 Billion years not 13.7 million years.

We know when the first light came, we have mapped out the whole universe in Radar, its not something that is guess work, just like Radar was used to see planes in  WW2 and is still being used. The 

Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe took a picture of the universe by radar, here is what it shows, this 100% confirms the Gen. 1 narration by God unto Moses.

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The Quantum Fluctuations were outside our universe before our universe came into being....Maybe proves a Force like God had t create our universe from outside our universe and is therefore not subject unto time Himself.

Inflation caused by the Big Bang or God speaking creation.

An Afterglow pattern hung around 375k years.

 

THEN.......BOOM

There was 400 Million Years of DARKNESS

 

Gen. 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void(not there yet); and darkness was upon the face of the deep(for 400 million years). And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

In the beginning means God SPOKE CREATION, and since this story is about Man' creation in juxtaposition to God, we ae told God created the Heaven and the Earth (like an Overview)

Then were are told from God's perspective (no one but God was there right? and the Holy Spirit & Yeshua) that the earth was without FORM & VOID meaning earth was not in existence yet even though God had spoken it into existence, God lives outside of time, we don't. Then God tells us there was DARKNESS ON THE FACE OF THE DEEP.

Well, well just look at the Microwave Probe results, it shows 400 million years of Darkness before the first starts were formed. They called it the Dark Ages !! Now look at how light was crated, there was an ACTION tat had to happen before Light could illuminate the earth, you see Sunbeams are straight light forms that need reflecting in order to illuminate fully. As soon as we leave our Atmosphere, notice it gets much, much darker !! But why? Because God MOVED on the Face of the Waters, He created a Bio-Dome fir us that entraps Moisture, thus the Sun can illuminate our planet and we can have crops etc. Then on Day 4 we got orderly weather patterns, the Moon crashed into the Earth giving us a Satellite to pull off of and thus ORDERLY WETHER PATTERNS. 

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