Did God create Adam & Eve being that there were already people on Earth?

[Marathoner]

Injecting notions and ideas into scripture which are absent is neither worthwhile nor does it bear good fruit. 

Most people have opinions about this and that --- this topic is an excellent example of that --- and so I point toward treating others with kindness and practicing restraint whenever disagreements arise. We can most assuredly disagree about non-essentials, my friends. I have written the following many times before:

It's sufficient to articulate our opinion, but grievous to press the matter and foment strife. 

[enoob57]

2 hours ago, Marston said:

Genesis 1 explains that God made humanity.

Genesis 2 explains that God made Adam and Eve.

Why did Adam and Eve bear modern humans along with Neanderthals and other "species" of humans? 

After Genesis 1 you have the sanctification of all that God ever created in the six day period

Genesis 2:1 (KJV)

[1] Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

[2] And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

[3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Genesis 2 is the reiteration of said creation with the addition of satan's rebellion as somewhere after the seven day of God's putting His seal of approval on what He had created Lucifer became satan the enemy of God...

It is one of those rightly dividing of God's Word we have been instructed on doing
2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV)

[15] Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

[enoob57]

17 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

OK - I respect that.  However, I came to a different conclusion after studying numerous authors and having lively debates ad nauseum . . . my conclusion was the "gap theory" may be valid, but so might the young earth stance. So I put it all in the proverbial non-core TBD* category (like, for example, the often passionate predestination vs free will debate and a number of various other popular Christian wranglings).

* To be determined - meaning Christ will make us clear at some point

So when God had Moses write
Genesis 1:1 (KJV)

[1] In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

your assessment of this is there was another beginning before this beginning? Because the rest of the chapter is progression from this one beginning 'the beginning' and so there was really another beginning before this beginning... you actually see this as allowing the leading of Scripture?

[enoob57]

29 minutes ago, Marston said:

Did dinosaurs ever exist?

                                            
well, we have their bones  

[Dennis1209]

7 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

That's one opinion.  But I won't debate one way or the other, as I could present both sides well I think.  But it really is profitless, as has been attested to by perhaps a dozen lengthy young vs. old earth discussions I've participated in over the years.  I see both sides (and not a core essential of our one faith).

Hey VA,

I am the same way; I do not take a strong position either way and as you said, it is not a core issue. However, we have much information about Adam & Eve and the decline of human longevity when sin entered the world through one man.

How drastically did the world change when Adam & Eve partook of the forbidden fruit of the tree? Since then, creation has revolted and groans more and more with time. In the creation account or recreation account, there is a sequential and logical ecological progression of one that supports and enables the other.

If there was no death (zero) before the fall, does that imply humanity only because Adam was created to live forever? That raises interesting questions about creation and how the ecological system worked before death entered the world.

Vegetation, plants, and trees today require fertilization and oxygenation of their root system, supplied by insects, animals, other dead matter and material, and microorganisms tunneling and dying, the cycle of ecological life and death. Was it always this way, or did it change in the fall?

Adam tended the garden, I assume, because he labored for his daily bread, but work was not a difficult chore as it is today, with the ground cursed and by the sweat of the brow.

A seed comes from something alive. When a seed is sown, is it alive, dead, or dormant (asleep)? Regarding planting, the less moisture (dehydration) the seed has, the better, I am told.

It is interesting to think about and speculate, but in the end, I do not know.

[Marston]

20 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

After Genesis 1 you have the sanctification of all that God ever created in the six day period

Genesis 2:1 (KJV)

[1] Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

[2] And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

[3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Genesis 2 is the reiteration of said creation with the addition of satan's rebellion as somewhere after the seven day of God's putting His seal of approval on what He had created Lucifer became satan the enemy of God...

It is one of those rightly dividing of God's Word we have been instructed on doing
2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV)

[15] Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Were Neanderthals considered human? Did they come from Adam and Eve? 

[enoob57]

There is a Biblical reality given to us all ... whenever there is division in understanding-> God's Word has only one understanding! God has said to us all that said Word will be judge of both the unsaved and the saved: unsaved Great White Throne.... Saved Judgement Seat of Christ

unsaved
John 12:48 (KJV)

[48] He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

saved
John 17:17 (KJV)

[17] Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

 

[enoob57]

7 minutes ago, Marston said:

Were Neanderthals considered human? Did they come from Adam and Eve? 

evolution is a lie a strong delusion God warned us about
2 Thessalonians 2:10 (KJV)

[10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

[12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

[13] But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

Everything after it's kind since the creation of the world... so humans begat humans till this day!

[tharkun]

To the OP - it's important to note that scritpure follows genealogical descent, not genetic descent. There's no contradiction in supposing that other people were outside the garden and A&E were specially created and placed in the garden to be His image-bearers on earth. Genetically, there's no problem with the line of A&E intermixing with those outside the garden. It can be shown that by the time fo Christ, all would be descendents of A&E. Refer to S Joshua Swamidass' 'The Genealogical Adam and Eve' for more details.

[tharkun]

1 minute ago, enoob57 said:

evolution is a lie a strong delusion God warned us about
2 Thessalonians 2:10 (KJV)

[10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

[12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

[13] But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

Everything after it's kind since the creation of the world... so humans begat humans till this day!

 

That scripture says absolutely nothing about evolution.