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[TheBlade]

Thank you but I kindly disagree with "If we intentionally sin it manifests we are unsaved, " there is no scripture for that. From what I read and understand there is  no sin I can do that He forgot about a didn't die for or some how got passed the blood of Jesus Christ. We all get tempted and He makes a way out we take or we don't and we listened to that thought or what ever and we freely willingly sinned. We all have at one point or another willingly sinned. We really need to get over this. This flesh was not is not changed "yet". It loves to sin. Its no longer I that sin but sin that is in me. Who am I now? I am still the so called old man or new man which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness?  

The fact remains "we all need Jesus".. ooh I think that's song.. Danny Gokey. Older song come to mind forgiven forgiven forgiven and free forgiven forgiven eternally. See in all this I do not want to never have wanted to freely sin. That thought has never once been in me. Just to think "ooh I can freely sin He will forgive me". If willingly sin or intentionally sin means your not saved then Heaven is going to be empty for there is not one that has ever been like that but Christ and what reasons was that? To save us. Some here fully understand and fall on their face when it come to "grace". As He always says.. with a smile .. reaching down into that dark huge hole "that's why I died". It seems so easy to forget sin no longer has a hold.. like everyone else.. forever is not long enough to say .. thank you Father for sending your son.. For God so loved the world. 

[WordSword]

On 4/28/2025 at 3:35 PM, TheBlade said:

Thank you but I kindly disagree with "If we intentionally sin it manifests we are unsaved, " there is no scripture for that.

"For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins." If we are reborn we will not want to sin, but we still sin impulsively or ignorantly, not intentionally (Heb 10:26). Why would a Christian want to sin anyway?

Thanks for your reply!

 

[Michael37]

1 hour ago, WordSword said:

. Why would a Christian want to sin anyway?

Thanks for your reply!

 

Same reason Adam and Eve did.

[enoob57]

Exactly … that is why our eternal portal is God which holds no part with sin forever…. 

[WordSword]

17 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Same reason Adam and Eve did.

Hi, and appreciate your reply. The way I see it is that Adam and Eve did not have God "working in them" (Phl 2:13) as we now do; which is why we no longer want to sin, our sins are no longer "willful" (Heb 10:26), like Paul, he did not want to sin, but still possessing the sin nature or "old man," we still sin. (Rom 7:15, 20).

Edited 9 hours ago by WordSword

[enoob57]

1 hour ago, WordSword said:

The way I see it is that Adam and Eve did not have God "working in them" (Phl 2:13) as we now do

Then how do you classify the essence of breath of God that went into?

Genesis 2:7 (KJV)

⁷And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

and then considering the statement of Jesus ‘born again’
 

John 3:3 (KJV)

³Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

two hurdles I see to come to your conclusions of not having God within them… Then the cap stone of all this created in God’s image and that entails

John 4:24 (KJV)

²⁴God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Just trying to understand your statement based off my understanding in reply… thank you ahead of time…

Perhaps we should start another thread was the breath of God the entrance of the Holy Spirit? 
 

[Michael37]

7 hours ago, WordSword said:

Hi, and appreciate your reply. The way I see it is that Adam and Eve did not have God "working in them" (Phl 2:13) as we now do; which is why we no longer want to sin, our sins are no longer "willful" (Heb 10:26), like Paul, he did not want to sin, but still possessing the sin nature or "old man," we still sin. (Rom 7:15, 20).

Paul's epistle to the Galatians, need I say more . . .