BUSTED -12 False Theories Refuted

[Keras]

Many wrong beliefs have been accepted by Christians. Ideas and theories which have no proper Biblical support and in most cases are directly Spoken against.

1/ The Church is raptured to heaven:

Jesus said 3 times, that we must endure until the end. Matthew 24:13

The holy peoples of God are present in the Holy Land in the end times. Rev 13:7

The righteous will possess the Land and live there forever. Psalms 37:29

 

2/ Preterism -the belief that most Prophesies have happened in the past:

Disproved by the historical facts. What is Prophesied does not match past events.

Psalms 83 actually refers to past battles, as examples of future ones.

2 Peter 1:19 tells everyone to study the Prophesies for our enlightenment.

 

3/ An ethnic Jewish redemption:

Many Prophesies tell of the virtual demise of the Jews who are mostly those who wrongly call themselves Jews; Revelation 2:9b, Isaiah 22:14, Ezekiel 21:1-7

This false idea was made up to support the rapture;- Jewish Israel on earth and the Church in heaven. Neither is Biblical and neither will happen. 

4/ AMillenniumism, - we are in the Millennium now:

This idea, is patently wrong as Jesus is not now ruling the world. Matthew 4:8-9

Revelation 20 mentions a thousand year period after Jesus Returns; 6 times.

The thousand years will be the Sabbath period, the last tranche of the 7000 year time for God’s Plan for mankind to be completed. 

 

5/ We are in the new Covenant with God now:

Jesus fulfilled His part of the new Covenant at the Last Supper.

But it will not be until all the Christian peoples are gathered into all of the holy Land, that the holy people of God, will make the New Covenant with Him. Jeremiah 31:31-34, Ezekiel 34:24-31, Isaiah 61:8, Hebrews 8:8-12,  - all remain unfulfilled.

 

6/ A new Temple:

Those who say: We Christians are the Temple of God, - are correct for this 2000 year Church age. That truth does not preclude a new Temple being built in Jerusalem.

Men will come from far away to build it, Zechariah 6:15, and it will be greater than the former ones. Haggai 2:9. Ezekiel 40 to 43:17, specifies the construction of it.

 

7/ Jesus is the one and only Sacrifice for our sins:

True, but God does not change, Malachi 3:6, and He will require thank offerings and sacrifices for inadvertent sins, in the Temple. Ezekiel 43:18 to 46:24, Zechariah 14:16-21, and Daniel 9:27 proves that Temple sacrifices will be made again.

Isaiah 56:1-8….Their offerings and sacrifices will be acceptable on My Altar….

8/ Jewish Israelis own the holy Land:

They now have control of a small part of the holy Land, but they are in apostasy and punishment is Prophesied – with only a Christian remnant surviving. Romans 9:27

Jesus said: the Kingdom is taken from you and given to the peoples who bear the proper fruit. Matthew 21:43  I will uproot the evil neighbours and Judah too; I will uproot. Only those who follow the Way of Life, can live there. Jeremiah 12:14

I will give the Land to new owners…..Jeremiah 8:1-13   My chosen ones will live there Isaiah 65:9

 

9/ We Christians are conscious after death:

The dead know nothing; Eccl 9;5-6, and cannot praise God. Psalms 115:17

David sleeps in his grave ….. Acts 13:36

Only after the Millennium, at the Great White Throne Judgment, everyone who has ever lived will stand before God. Revelation 20:11-15  In a Spiritually aware state.

 

10/ The Anti-Christ [beast] will be a Jew, he will purport to be the Messiah;

Nahum 1:11 From you Assyria, comes a wicked councillor, one who plots evil against the Lord. 2 Thess 2:4 He will sit in the Temple, demanding worship of himself; or the penalty of death. Revelation 13:8

 

11/ The Return of Jesus will be like a thief;- unexpected:

This belief is extremely presumptuous and is downright disgusting.

 Jesus will Return in glory; with the trumpet blast of God, 1 Thess 4:16 and be seen by all. Revelation 1:7, Rev 19:11-21

The unexpected Day, will be the terrible Day the Lord sends Hs fiery wrath, which will come without warning, shocking everyone and changing the world. Rev 6:11-17

 

12/ The Sixth Seal is a localized event and is part of the Great Tribulation:

The Sixth Seal worldwide disaster, will commence all of the end time Prophesies.

Terrible signs in the sky with the seas roaring and surging, people will be terrified and not know which way to turn. Luke 21:25-26 & 35, it will come upon everyone the whole world over.

Isaiah 34:1-8 Listen; you peoples …the Lord ‘s anger is against all the nations. He gives them over to slaughter and destruction. The heavens will be rolled up, Revelation 6:14, and the mountains moved. For the Lord has a Day of vengeance with  His Sword of retribution. Hebrews 10:27 & 30

In order for us to be prepared for the dramatic and testing times ahead we should be sure of what the Lord has told us, thru His Prophets. For the faithful and ready people, who know what to expect, it will be bearable. But to many the shock and terror may be unbearable.

 

[Jaydub]

 

3 hours ago, Keras said:

Many wrong beliefs have been accepted by Christians. Ideas and theories which have no proper Biblical support and in most cases are directly Spoken against.

Its a sad thing to see just how differently we all look at scriptures. I think I agree with you on just one of your twelve

[Keras]

4 hours ago, Jaydub said:

 

Its a sad thing to see just how differently we all look at scriptures. I think I agree with you on just one of your twelve

It is, and neither you nor I are likely to change. 

The main difference is; when does each Prophecy take place? Plainly stated Prophecy, which can be literally fulfilled; will be, therefore it is getting the correct sequence of events, where people differ. 

For example, I place the Lords Day of vengeance and wrath at the Sixth Seal, which is the next Prophesied event we can expect.  Placing that terrible event elsewhere, necessitates a shuffling, or private interpretation of scripture, something I see others do with reckless abandon. 

[Jaydub]

6 hours ago, Keras said:

It is, and neither you nor I are likely to change. 

The main difference is; when does each Prophecy take place? Plainly stated Prophecy, which can be literally fulfilled; will be, therefore it is getting the correct sequence of events, where people differ. 

For example, I place the Lords Day of vengeance and wrath at the Sixth Seal, which is the next Prophesied event we can expect.  Placing that terrible event elsewhere, necessitates a shuffling, or private interpretation of scripture, something I see others do with reckless abandon. 

I agree that it is the same event, but I believe its the time of the very end, the second coming

 

[Keras]

1 hour ago, Jaydub said:

I agree that it is the same event, but I believe its the time of the very end, the second coming

 

I respect your belief. 

However, it doesn't seem to be logical to have disaster after Great Tribulation. Also, the Return is described as a glorious event, not in vengeance and wrath. 

[The Light]

11 hours ago, Keras said:

 

However, it doesn't seem to be logical to have disaster after Great Tribulation. Also, the Return is described as a glorious event, not in vengeance and wrath. 

The Lord comes in power and glory at the 6th seal immediately after the great tribulation. Then the 7th seal is opened, and the wrath of God begins............the 7 trumpets and 7 vials.

[Keras]

3 hours ago, The Light said:

The Lord comes in power and glory at the 6th seal immediately after the great tribulation. Then the 7th seal is opened, and the wrath of God begins............the 7 trumpets and 7 vials.

This looks as though you have put all the end times Prophesies in a mix-master. It means you have shuffled around the Book of Revelation and it simply does not relate to the description of the glorious Return in Rev 19:11-21

[The Light]

1 hour ago, Keras said:

This looks as though you have put all the end times Prophesies in a mix-master. It means you have shuffled around the Book of Revelation and it simply does not relate to the description of the glorious Return in Rev 19:11-21

This looks as though your deductive reasoning skills are left wanting. The tribulation is over at the 6th seal as marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. Revelation 19:11-21 occurs at the end of the wrath of God at Armageddon.

Matthew 24

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Revelation 6

12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

The great tribulation is when the seed of the woman Israel, which are the twelve tribes across the earth are killed. This has nothing to do with the wrath of God which is when God takes vengeance on the wicked unbelievers.

 

[Keras]

Matthew 24:29....the moon shall not give her light...

Revelation 6:12......the moon became as blood.  

Earthquakes and the sun darkened are similar at both the Sixth Seal and at the Return, but the state of the moon proves they are different events.   As I say; it's a mistake to mix up the Prophesies. 

@The Light: we have very different beliefs about what God has planned for His people in the end times. If you have a scripture or a valid argument to show where I am wrong in any of the 12 items I listed, then post it. Otherwise, just leave it be and keep praying to our merciful God.

[The Light]

39 minutes ago, Keras said:

Matthew 24:29....the moon shall not give her light...

Revelation 6:12......the moon became as blood.  

Earthquakes and the sun darkened are similar at both the Sixth Seal and at the Return, but the state of the moon proves they are different events.   As I say; it's a mistake to mix up the Prophesies. 

As I I've told you twice in the past, during a lunar eclipse the moon is both darkened, not giving light AND becomes red like blood.

Both events occur at a lunar eclipse. Go to YouTube and watch a lunar eclipse. Your rejection of the truth is easily proven in error.

39 minutes ago, Keras said:

 

@The Light: we have very different beliefs about what God has planned for His people in the end times. If you have a scripture or a valid argument to show where I am wrong in any of the 12 items I listed, then post it. Otherwise, just leave it be and keep praying to our merciful God.

Well, I just posted scriptures that prove that you are totally and completely in error. 

Or do you have any proof that the moon is not both darkened and turns red like blood during a lunar eclipse.

There are so many errors in the original post that I'm not sure I have time to disprove them all.

Additionally, it's your argument that Christians are not raptured to heaven. I can and have in the past posted verses the prove you are totally and completely in ERROR. You just reject the Word of God and go on about your business and pretend that it didn't happen.

Edited Friday at 01:27 AM by The Light