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[Guest yod]

Taking His name "in vain" means using it in a worthless way. For instance, have you noticed how overusing any word will make it rather common?

How many movies do they substitute the words "Jesus Christ" when they really mean something else? This is taking His name in vain.

But another aspect of not writing the full name of God is that His name doesn't belong in the trash and that is where every written word eventually ends up...even if it is the virtual trash bin of your computer.

[Guest NewPilgrim]

(NewPilgrim @ Dec 13 2005, 06:15 PM)

Oh yeah, I must have missed that whole "New Testament" thing

The only other alternative you have is to suggest that the God of the Old Testament is different than the God of the new Testament.

As for missing the New Testament, I'd say so. It's chalk full of Jews.

In fact, I think they even said that Jesus feller is one.

im not sure im following here? are we being sarcastic or serious?? haha im lost.... sorry.

My "New Testament" remark was sarcastic, yes. Its a little patronising when someone states the obvious that The God of the Jews (Yahweh, as we are increasingly coming to call him)gave his life on the cross for all nations in the form of Yeshua. Its kinda what our faith is based on.

I used that specific title in my original post because it would be recognised by both Jews and Christians alike, or at least it ought to be.

[aaronjm]

I am not to famililiar on YHWY, and when it is used in the bible (I am getting there) but in my church they call Him Yahvey, with a V. I am pretty sure that noone knows the correct way to say it, but where does my church get the V, or other people use the W? My favorite part of the whole Bible is when the Pharisee's come to get Yeshua, Yeshua tells them I AM, and they collapse at those words. UNBELIEVABLE, how poweful is Yeshua!! What a wonderful L-rd we have. Makes me so happy thinking of those verses. May Yeshua bless you all

Aaron

[Guest NewPilgrim]

The "V" comes into play when the hebrew or greek is translated into latin, as there is no "W" in latin (I think). Its for the same reason that we have the name "Jesus". The Hebrew "Yeshua" translates into greek as "Yesu" and then into Latin as "Iesus" When translated into English, many Latin "I"s become "J"s and so "Iesus" became "Jesus". Dont quote me on those translations, but its something roughly like that. My greek and latin are practically non-existant.

The name "Yahweh" is a hebrew word and means "I AM" or more literally "I was, I am and I shall be" and thats why we call him Yahweh...its the closest thing we have in modern english (der: Hebrew) to the name of God :-)

ftnt: It was the translation (or possibly MIStranslation) of "Yahweh" into latin that produced the name "Jehova"

Edited December 16, 2005 by NewPilgrim

[aaronjm]

Wow, thanks a lot.

[MrSealedEternal]

The "V" comes into play when the hebrew or greek is translated into latin, as there is no "W" in latin (I think). Its for the same reason that we have the name "Jesus". The Hebrew "Yeshua" translates into greek as "Yesu" and then into Latin as "Iesus" When translated into English, many Latin "I"s become "J"s and so "Iesus" became "Jesus". Dont quote me on those translations, but its something roughly like that. My greek and latin are practically non-existant.

I agree with you in my limited understanding of language. I while back I heard some claims that Jesus was a corrupted name that comes from Ye'-zeus which means "Zeus is god." I tend to think that it is purely coincidence, but it is something that always bothered me in the back of my mind. Does anyone know anything about this?

Mr SE

[wouldhe]

Because, although I dont do it, In Israekl, O is not a letter or somthing, so it's G-D. Youre welcome. Remmeber whose Child you are. In his name we bear. G-d bless.