Hell after the fact

[Guest sylvesterkv]

In the end, dont forget that you cannot save another person. It is between them and God. You can help them come to know the lord, but no christian can save another.

True, God alone does the saving. However, after all is said and done Revelation says, " ...He will wipe away every tear...". Now, we know in part - - one day we will know in full. So if there is grief over whomever is lost - - it seems to me that our God is our comfort

[eric]

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I have always contended and always will that babies go to heaven and there are some that will harp on about going to hell because you must be born again blah blah. and babies are not old enough to make a decision etc etc. God's ways are not our ways and God's thoughts aren't our thoughts.

It is also my own belief that when we reach the end of our journey, we won't remember a thing about our previous life on earth. The word says that. "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creation and old things have passed away; behold all things are become new."

In Rev 7:16-17 the word gives a pretty good overview of what it will be like. There will be no tears, so that's a pretty good indication that we will no longer remeber what it was like when we were in our physical bodies. We will all be conformed to the image if Christ according to Rom.8:29 so that He might be the first born among many brethren. We can only speculate what it is goingto be like, but that's my take on it and I am as excited as a child on Christmas eve.

cheers,

eric

[Smalcald]

What do you think it will be like watching someone consigned to hell that you know or care about after its all over? Will you care? Care about them anymore? Call it justice? What are some peoples thoughts on this?

I think that is a good question. How could heaven contain sadness and remorse though?

How about the inverse. If one were to go to hell, but knew that someone we loved was eternally in heaven, well then is hell really hell? If I knew for example that my wife and children were in heaven, well I would always have that joy, even in hell. But would hell really be hell then?

I can't answer those questions.

"In Rev 7:16-17 the word gives a pretty good overview of what it will be like. There will be no tears, so that's a pretty good indication that we will no longer remember what it was like when we were in our physical bodies. We will all be conformed to the image if Christ according to Rom.8:29 so that He might be the first born among many brethren. We can only speculate what it is goingto be like, but that's my take on it and I am as excited as a child on Christmas eve."

Hi Eric.

But if we don't remember anything about our past life, well then we died we as an individual ceased to exist, and there is some other person living in heaven, but not us. For all purposes the people we are now would be dead if we have zero memories, as memories are really the only thing which make us who we are from one moment to the next. But I know where you are coming from on that. I do think the individual entity that we are, our souls, exist and are not re-created in their entirety, I think we will have all knowledge, including our old knowledge.

[MK202002]

This is my comfort:

1 Corinthians 13:12Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

[eric]

Hi smalcald,

Well I can say this for sure there's 90% of my past life I have no wish to remember and that includes most of my past family and I am an old man now.

Rev.21:4-5.And God will wipe away all tears from their eyes, and there shall be no more death neither sorrow nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain; for the former things are passed away.

And He that sat upon the throne said,Behold I make all things new and He said unto me, write for these things are true and faithful.

WOW! a clean slate and a new start of a new world and a new life.

Even so; come Lord Jesus. Thank you Lord.

eric

[st. Worm]

In Heaven, our perspective, not marred by sin as it is now, will be much different. Now we often question God's actions and judgements. We now fail to see God's glory in these things. When we finally are in His presence we will see things much differently. We will no longer cling to the past nor will we have worries or regrets. Clearly we cannot even begin to imagine how things will be then. Neither eye has seen nor ear has heard ... .