Old earth vs. new earth

[Guest NewPilgrim]

Sorry, I lost you on this one. Would you please explain to me what you were thinking of - because I'm thinking of A,T, C, G & U, which is more than three?

As far as I was aware, DNA consists of two amino acids tied by a biological bonding agent. If this information is wrong or misinterpreted, I stand corrected and apologise.

Each DNA molecule is made up of two very long polymers connected by the bonding of hydrogen atoms and coiled in the shape of a double helix.

-taken from http://library.thinkquest.org/20465/DNAstruct.html

The same article goes onto explain:

Each of the two polymers contains many structures called nucleotides, which, in turn, may be further broken down into three parts: deoxyribose (a five carbon sugar), a phosphate group, and a nitrogenous base.

At the risk of diversing slightly, Am I also right in thinking that the ameno acids when separated will bond like for like rather than to each other? In view of the fact that DNA is found in single cells and life supposedly evolved from single cells, it is hard to imagine any scenario other than the DNA structure being created in bond rather than itself also having evolved.

Edited January 12, 2006 by NewPilgrim

[apothanein kerdos]

Sorry, I lost you on this one. Would you please explain to me what you were thinking of - because I'm thinking of A,T, C, G & U, which is more than three?

As far as I was aware, DNA consists of two amino acids tied by a biological bonding agent. If this information is wrong or misinterpreted, I stand corrected and apologise.

Each DNA molecule is made up of two very long polymers connected by the bonding of hydrogen atoms and coiled in the shape of a double helix.

-taken from http://library.thinkquest.org/20465/DNAstruct.html

The same article goes onto explain:

Each of the two polymers contains many structures called nucleotides, which, in turn, may be further broken down into three parts: deoxyribose (a five carbon sugar), a phosphate group, and a nitrogenous base.

What are the basics of DNA, or are those the basics? Like....what absolutely needs to be there for DNA to exist and fuction....and what occurs if a biological element does not contain DNA?

[Guest NewPilgrim]

I'm afraid that stretches beyond my knowledge Kerdos. I could only speculate by logic that DNA without all its requisite parts present would not perform its function completely.

[MrSealedEternal]

What a great topic; I'm newish to the boards so I am assuming y'all have beat the Gap Theory (which to me is plausible) to death already. It would suggest the earth is quite old, but that the 6 days of creation or re-creation in Genesis 1 was relatively recent, as in 6,000 years ago. I find it all fascinating.

That ^ is the only one I have ever heard that sounded even remotely plausible to me, but I would have to lose the RE-creation part of it.

Mrs. SE

In the Hebrew, it actually says the earth "became void" ect., suggesting it wasn't created that way. I had to do extensive research on this for a client last year, and it was all new to me. However, the more I studied it (am fluent in Hebrew) and the more I read, the more convinced I became that the Gap Theory, which includes the "re-creation" of earth, is not only plausible but highly possible. As I indicated in an earlier post, its all very fascinating to me, possibly because I am a relatively new believer and therefore don't have any preconceived notions based on an endless parade of sermons and church doctrine.

Hi Marnie,

I used to wonder why God created the dinosaurs millions and billions of years ago and if the creative days just might actually not be literal 24 hour days and a whole host of other speculations. Basically, all the conflicting information was confusing me.

I have heard this fascinating theory before. I believe it to be erroneous FROM my studies. The RE~creation part of the theory really makes absolutely no sense to me at all for other reasons, too. It is off the topic here, but if you are interested...

Here is a link to another thread where I was discussing this with with someone else.

Thanks,

Mrs. SE

[nebula]

The same article goes onto explain:

Each of the two polymers contains many structures called nucleotides, which, in turn, may be further broken down into three parts: deoxyribose (a five carbon sugar), a phosphate group, and a nitrogenous base.

At the risk of diversing slightly, Am I also right in thinking that the ameno acids when separated will bond like for like rather than to each other? In view of the fact that DNA is found in single cells and life supposedly evolved from single cells, it is hard to imagine any scenario other than the DNA structure being created in bond rather than itself also having evolved.

OK - I see what you are saying. I was thinking of the code/connectors.

But you are correct, there are three main parts.

Likewise, and I forgot this, too, but also DNA "words" (codons) are 3 letters long.

Hmmm . . . interesting!

What are the basics of DNA, or are those the basics? Like....what absolutely needs to be there for DNA to exist and fuction....and what occurs if a biological element does not contain DNA?

If you have time on your hands, I just found this web page which can answer just about everything, it seems, on DNA:

http://www.dnaftb.org/dnaftb/

[nebula]

In the Hebrew, it actually says the earth "became void" ect., suggesting it wasn't created that way. I had to do extensive research on this for a client last year, and it was all new to me. However, the more I studied it (am fluent in Hebrew) and the more I read, the more convinced I became that the Gap Theory, which includes the "re-creation" of earth, is not only plausible but highly possible. As I indicated in an earlier post, its all very fascinating to me, possibly because I am a relatively new believer and therefore don't have any preconceived notions based on an endless parade of sermons and church doctrine.

Marnie - I know a thread you might love to read!

New Creation Perspectives

[Guest NewPilgrim]

If anyone feels I'm diversing again, please ignore this, but, wouldnt the premise of dinosaurs and whatnot living and dying before Adam and Eve were created, be in opposition to the introduction of death by the fall of man?

However long the creation process may have taken, God said "it is good". This would not be indicative of death before the fall surely?

A brief and plausible reply is all I'm looking for, not lookin to debate it.

Edited January 13, 2006 by NewPilgrim

[apothanein kerdos]

If anyone feels I'm diversing again, please ignore this, but, wouldnt the premise of dinosaurs and whatnot living and dying before Adam and Eve were created, be in opposition to the introduction of death by the fall of man?

However long the creation process may have taken, God said "it is good". This would not be indicative of death before the fall surely?

A brief and plausible reply is all I'm looking for, not lookin to debate it.

Unless we understand "death" in the bible to be only in reference to man's physical death and the fallen nature that then surrounded the world. However, this is simply a side issue.

[MrSealedEternal]

In the Hebrew, it actually says the earth "became void" ect., suggesting it wasn't created that way. I had to do extensive research on this for a client last year, and it was all new to me. However, the more I studied it (am fluent in Hebrew) and the more I read, the more convinced I became that the Gap Theory, which includes the "re-creation" of earth, is not only plausible but highly possible. As I indicated in an earlier post, its all very fascinating to me, possibly because I am a relatively new believer and therefore don't have any preconceived notions based on an endless parade of sermons and church doctrine.

Marnie - I know a thread you might love to read!

New Creation Perspectives

Wow! That really is an excellent thread.

Thanks for the link, Neb.

Mrs. SE

[Guest NewPilgrim]

Indeed it is kerdos, tho when i said "brief" I was hoping for something perhaps a "wee bit" more substantial. After all, the dinosaurs and contemporaries had physical death of some form or other, an occurance which covers a huge time period preceeding the advent of man according to popular observation. Doesnt sound "good" however you paint it. If you have more detail on the premise, I'd be grateful to receive a PM from you

Apologies for straying off the OP, will say no more on the subject.

Edited January 13, 2006 by NewPilgrim