Robert Schuller

[RGR]

I checked out a book at the local library from Robert Schuller. I like to read Christian books from well-known Christian authors/preachers and though I really didn't know too much about him, I checked it out. There were some points that I disagreed on and some I agreed on. The title of the book was "The Be (Happy) Attitudes" and it really doesn't stray from the sorta "self-help" Christian genre, but it just seemed to me that he was saying in spots that non-Christians could use his teachings as well.

In one spot, he said that if you felt a peace come over you to say "Yes, Lord" several times and that if an hour later you felt something or the other, that was God calling you to be a Christian. I don't get that one!

Am I simply making a mountain out of a molehill or am I not alone in my thinking that maybe some of his beliefs might not line up with the Book of books?

Ronald

[Bill]

I've heard it said that Schueller is one to keep an eye on. Don't know much myself but what I've been told.

Maybe some others here are more educated in this than I am.

[nebula]

A little over ten years ago, I was on a cross-country tour as a part of a cross-cultural tour within my college. Long story. But the point is one of our stops was a tour of the Crystal Cathedral. (Yes, they run tours!) The church is in a rich community and is designed to be an outreach to the rich. (You wouldn't believe how much it costs just to wash the windows on the place!)

Well, I don't want to be slandering, but I was so disappointed in the place. I did the best I could to give them the benefit of the doubt, but the place just "felt" so spiritually dead, it mae me angry. YOu know, when I go to a church, I want to feel the presence of God - and I didn't.

So sad.

[Mrs Mac]

"I don't think anything has been done in the name of Christ and under the banner of Christianity that has proven more destructive to human personality and, hence, counterproductive to the evangelism enterprise than the often crude, uncouth, and unchristian strategy of attempting to make people aware of their lost and sinful condition."

(Robert Schuller, Time, March 18, 1985)

http://www.floridacp.com/heresy/quotes/schuller.htm

As a Christian if I had his books I would burn them.

[Catsmeow]

Geez, Mrs...love those signatures!!! Too cool..

Thank you for putting into words what I cannot.

I was in missions in Indonesia when I saw a Larry King interveiw on CNN, where the president of the Mormons, Schuller and Desmond Tutu were having a dialogue.

Schuller made some crude comment about breaking down the doors of traditional religion and taking over.

I have the shorthand notes I took on it and I'll see if I can dig those up.

I was aghast when I heard things he said and wondered why this didn't get more publicity in Christian circles.

Isn't it funny he would say that making people aware of their lost condition is "unchristian"? Remarkable, huh?

Isn't there a verse that talks about learning but never coming to the knowledge of truth?

[Bill]

"I don't think anything has been done in the name of Christ and under the banner of Christianity that has proven more destructive to human personality and, hence, counterproductive to the evangelism enterprise than the often crude, uncouth, and unchristian strategy of attempting to make people aware of their lost and sinful condition."

(Robert Schuller, Time, March 18, 1985)

http://www.floridacp.com/heresy/quotes/schuller.htm

As a Christian if I had his books I would burn them.

That link was insightful, Mrs Mac. Sounds like lots of "positive self-image" stuff, along with a lot of "man-centered" religious convictions. Borders on NewAge, if it isn't for sure.

Now I see why I don't care to listen to Schueller...his teachings completely miss the mark.

[Guest Windshadow]

Now I see why I don't care to listen to Schueller...his teachings completely miss the mark.

Bill,

I'm sure the more you research this...the less you'll like about him.

Most of the folks who are 33rd degree masons are working for the wrong lord.

ws

[RGR]

Thanks-so enlightening. I saw some things in the book I checked out that looked sorta iffy. I've never really read his stuff, though I knew he was one of these when you saw him on TV didn't quite seem to make the right impression, so I figured y'all might! Many thanks-no more reading his junk!

[Work in Progress]

Just another lost and misquided soul who needs the Lord IMHO.

[Mrs Mac]

Just another lost and misquided soul who needs the Lord IMHO.

The problem is, he is possibly taking a church 10,000 strong with him. People and even Christians are being deluded by his messages because possibility thinking and positive thinking appeal to that which is in us that says, "I can do it myself".

True faith believes that God is our all sufficiency, Schuller's way is that we are able to do it through mind control.