Soul Sleep

[wouldhe]

Your views? Does it happen? Please, NO HIJACKING.

[His Ambassador]

It did happen for God's people but does no longer as the first trumpet has sounded in the spiritual world. When a Believer dies today he goes to be with the Lord in Paradise (not to be confused with Heaven) the "holding place" for the righteous dead. Those who have rejected God's plan of salvation go to Hades the "holding place" for the lost.

[Guest NewPilgrim]

I believe that Paradise is now redundant, whereas Hades is not. The Soul of the deceased believer is now, in my opinion, transferred from the point of death to the rapture resurrection. The soul of the deceased unbeliever is made alive in Spirit and sent to Hades to await judgement.

I'm not 100% on the idea, but based on scripture its my "best guess"

[ayin jade]

Scripture says to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

Scripture doesnt say to be absent from the body is to sleep waiting for the Lord.

Soul sleep isnt true.

[CarolineS]

Soul sleep is correct.

This is what happens when people build on false doctrine. First of all, according to God's Word, souls do die!

We are souls, and souls die. Man is mortal. Only God is immortal. The concept of an undying, immmortal soul goes against the Bible, which teaches that souls are subject to death.

<Ezekiel 18:20>

"The soul that sinneth, it shall die."

People do not go to either heaven or hell at death. They go to their graves to await the resurrection day.

<John 5:28,29>

"All that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth."

<Acts 2:29,34>

"David..is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us into this day." "For David is not ascended into the heavens."

<Job 17:13>

"If I wait, the grave is mine house."

<Job 14:12>

"So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep."

I think we need to look at the big picture. Why would Satan want people to believe that we are immortal?

Why would he want us to think we continue living in a spirit form immediately after we die physically?

In Christ,

CarolineS

[Waimahia]

It did happen for God's people but does no longer as the first trumpet has sounded in the spiritual world. When a Believer dies today he goes to be with the Lord in Paradise (not to be confused with Heaven) the "holding place" for the righteous dead. Those who have rejected God's plan of salvation go to Hades the "holding place" for the lost.

Uhmmm? Are you just making this up as you go? Let's have some scriptural support.

BTW do you even know what a soul is? Answer with scriptural support please.

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

I am going to close this thread. There are alot of discussions on this already on this forum. You can actually look them up with the search feature. There is also a thread in the Soapbox where the idea is being debated.

All of the past discussions are available.

As for my personal position? I believe the Word when it says," absent from the body present with the Lord".

2Co