Is the Catholic Church

[shanbopop]

I have read some intriguing discussions on it that lead me to believe it is.

[Leonard]

Please read Dave Chilton's DAYS OF VENGEANCE.

[apothanein kerdos]

No. THe Whore of Babylon is a system set up by the Anti-Christ. The religion doesn't exist yet.

[nebula]

I think Babylon today lives in Hollywood.

[aaronjm]

I think that it is an antichrist, but not The antichrist. Just on the basis of praying to the apostles, worshiping the pope..... my great grandma was STRICT catholic, and she was a fine example of a Christian. I just think they mislead people from true scripture.

[Pilgrim7]

Ruck1b,

Pretty close. Organized religion has alway been the greatest hindrance to the work of the Holy Spirit. God starts a church and soon man has taken it over and God is relegated to rubber stamping the the 'wisdom of man'. Yet there is the 'Great Whore' and she gives birth to all the 'baby harlots'. It was God's own 'organized church' which crucified Jesus. Once man wrests control from the Holy Spirit, there is not much hope. Thus the verse in Scripture, 'wherever two or more are gathered together in My name, there am I among them'.

Not to worry though, God can still finish His work through the two or three. Remember Gideon. It is not by might, nor by power, not by man's organization, not by TV or satelite, 'but by my Spirit sayeth the Lord'.

God Bless,

Dennis

[Fiosh]

Absolutely not.

1Cr 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

From "The Catechism of the Catholic Church"

IV. LORD

446 In the Greek translation of the Old Testament, the ineffable Hebrew name YHWH, by which God revealed himself to Moses,59 is rendered as Kyrios, "Lord". From then on, "Lord" becomes the more usual name by which to indicate the divinity of Israel's God. The New Testament uses this full sense of the title "Lord" both for the Father and - what is new - for Jesus, who is thereby recognized as God Himself.60

447 Jesus ascribes this title to himself in a veiled way when he disputes with the Pharisees about the meaning of Psalm 110, but also in an explicit way when he addresses his apostles.61 Throughout his public life, he demonstrated his divine sovereignty by works of power over nature, illnesses, demons, death and sin.

448 Very often in the Gospels people address Jesus as "Lord". This title testifies to the respect and trust of those who approach him for help and healing.62 At the prompting of the Holy Spirit, "Lord" expresses the recognition of the divine mystery of Jesus.63 In the encounter with the risen Jesus, this title becomes adoration: "My Lord and my God!" It thus takes on a connotation of love and affection that remains proper to the Christian tradition: "It is the Lord!"64

449 By attributing to Jesus the divine title "Lord", the first confessions of the Church's faith affirm from the beginning that the power, honor and glory due to God the Father are due also to Jesus, because "he was in the form of God",65 and the Father manifested the sovereignty of Jesus by raising him from the dead and exalting him into his glory.66

450 From the beginning of Christian history, the assertion of Christ's lordship over the world and over history has implicitly recognized that man should not submit his personal freedom in an absolute manner to any earthly power, but only to God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: Caesar is not "the Lord".67 "The Church. . . believes that the key, the center and the purpose of the whole of man's history is to be found in its Lord and Master."68

In His Love,

Fiosh

[Fiosh]

Absolutely not.

1Cr 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

From "The Catechism of the Catholic Church"

IV. LORD

446 In the Greek translation of the Old Testament, the ineffable Hebrew name YHWH, by which God revealed himself to Moses,59 is rendered as Kyrios, "Lord". From then on, "Lord" becomes the more usual name by which to indicate the divinity of Israel's God. The New Testament uses this full sense of the title "Lord" both for the Father and - what is new - for Jesus, who is thereby recognized as God Himself.60

447 Jesus ascribes this title to himself in a veiled way when he disputes with the Pharisees about the meaning of Psalm 110, but also in an explicit way when he addresses his apostles.61 Throughout his public life, he demonstrated his divine sovereignty by works of power over nature, illnesses, demons, death and sin.

448 Very often in the Gospels people address Jesus as "Lord". This title testifies to the respect and trust of those who approach him for help and healing.62 At the prompting of the Holy Spirit, "Lord" expresses the recognition of the divine mystery of Jesus.63 In the encounter with the risen Jesus, this title becomes adoration: "My Lord and my God!" It thus takes on a connotation of love and affection that remains proper to the Christian tradition: "It is the Lord!"64

449 By attributing to Jesus the divine title "Lord", the first confessions of the Church's faith affirm from the beginning that the power, honor and glory due to God the Father are due also to Jesus, because "he was in the form of God",65 and the Father manifested the sovereignty of Jesus by raising him from the dead and exalting him into his glory.66

450 From the beginning of Christian history, the assertion of Christ's lordship over the world and over history has implicitly recognized that man should not submit his personal freedom in an absolute manner to any earthly power, but only to God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: Caesar is not "the Lord".67 "The Church. . . believes that the key, the center and the purpose of the whole of man's history is to be found in its Lord and Master."68

In His Love,

Fiosh

I'm sorry but you lost me, what is it that you are getting at?

The Catholic Church proclaims that Jesus is Lord and demands submission to His Lordship.

[apothanein kerdos]

I'm so sick and tired of people condemning the Catholic Church.

Do you people even realize the reformation was to reform the Catholic church....not bash it? That was the original purpose...now...if it was evil and far from Christ, why would it need to be reformed and not just destroyed? Hmmmmmm

[Gerioke]

I'm so sick and tired of people condemning the Catholic Church.

Do you people even realize the reformation was to reform the Catholic church....not bash it? That was the original purpose...now...if it was evil and far from Christ, why would it need to be reformed and not just destroyed? Hmmmmmm

I agree.

We were spared the catholic bashing for some time now on the boards. Let's not get goofy again.