Are JW a cult?

[suzanagimpel]

Yes it is a cult! Dhah!

Jesus is not God for them.

That is enough for me to call a cult.

I want to see one like this discussion about the Mormons or the Saint of the later days. Something like that they call this sect.

They are even worse when it comes about Jesus He is only a prophet. And on the top the bible is not their final world. Have you guys seen the morman church comercial. How the bible disapears in the back ground and the book of the mormans comes up !!!

Love Suzana

[ted]

Oh boy. What a thread.

t.

[Guest NewPilgrim]

John 8:18 I am One who bears witness of Myself, and the Father who sent Me bears witness of Me."

19 Then they said to Him, "Where is Your Father?"

Jesus answered, "You know neither Me nor My Father. If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also."

20 These words Jesus spoke in the treasury, as He taught in the temple; and no one laid hands on Him, for His hour had not yet come.

21 Then Jesus said to them again, "I am going away, and you will seek Me, and will die in your sin. Where I go you cannot come."

22 So the Jews said, "Will He kill Himself, because He says, 'Where I go you cannot come'?"

23 And He said to them, "You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.

24 Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins."

25 Then they said to Him, "Who are You?"

And Jesus said to them, "Just what I have been saying to you from the beginning.

26 I have many things to say and to judge concerning you, but He who sent Me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I heard from Him."

27 They did not understand that He spoke to them of the Father.

JW's do not believe that Jesus and the Father are one. They do not have the fulness of the truth of the gospel.

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

Timbo,

Throughout history, God's people have been attacked, either physically or by verbal abuse.

I fail to see where anyone has verbally abused you or attacked you personally. However some have endeavored to point out the error of a Religious practice which leads to death (Jehovahs Witness). In the full Light of Gods revealed Truth as bound up in Christ Jesus and His everlasting Word.

I believe that the Truth has been spoken. Let the Word of God stand.

We are commanded to refuse any teaching which does not concur with the Truth as we have received it. That is in effect that we are all sinners and God died for our sins on a Cross atoning for us. Rising in New Life and triumphing over hell and death. Leaving us with the promise of His Ressurected life and Hope by Faith. Anything we have to offer outside of that Work, The Work of God, is filthy rags in His presence and will be rejected alongside His Righteousness.Christ Jesus the Righteousness of God come in mans flesh. Your gospel steals away the power and simplicity of the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore we reject it and speak the Truth in Love.

I pray the Lord Richly Blesses you.

Peace,

Dave

[Arthur Durnan]

Before the mid-1800s, there was no such organization as "Jehovah's Witnesses." It was commenced by a haberdasher out of Allegheny, Pennsylvania by name of Charles Taze Russell. In fact, it should always be referred to as "Jehovah's FALSE Witnesses" (JFWs for short) in that it vehemently denies the essential Deity of the Lord Jesus Christ. They teach that Jesus Christ is but "a god," not the Almighty God. So an excellent question to ask them is: Do you believe Jesus Christ was a true God or a false God? If they answer TRUE, then they have TWO true Gods (1) Jehovah and (2) Jesus Christ, which they will strenuously deny. But if they answer FALSE, then they teach that Jehovah God gave rise to a FALSE "a god", which they will again strenuously deny. However, they can't have it BOTH ways! Jesus Christ HAS TO BE one or the other!! No two ways about it.

Then, too, I understand that Charles Taze Russell had serious marital problems and died divorced from his wife! Very interesting indeed. The Apostle Paul makes it abundantly clear in 1 Timothy 3: 4,5 that if a man cannot rule in his own home re his wife & offspring, he is not prepared to rule in any way as a leader in the house of God. All of which casts divine disapproval on one, Charles Taze Russell, founder of the "Watchtower" religion. You'll render them kinda speechless every time on this one! As soon as the "Watchtower" folk are prepared to publicly excommunicate their founder, CTR, then we'll engage in discussion with them.

Finally, their plan of salvation is a plan of damnation. In all things, let Jehovah-Jesus be praised!

http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com

[elkieDannsa' Air An Drochaid]

You can choose CT Russel, defend him die for him but you will never ever have salvation in him!

I choose JESUS CHRIST my hope for glory!

Whom do you choose? Tell Jesus, if you dare to talk to him , not me!

ASk JEsus to prove to you Who He is, He will, he is capable of that.

You speand so much terrible time on that which is not inspied of God.

It is that The witnesses of the wathctower , not Jesus you defnd and witness to nad of. They are attacked if you wantot call it that, not for Jehovah not for Jesus butcause the yare not Christians ,IN CHRIST nor can even speak to HIm nor know him thorugh CT Russel and wathctower, do yo ureally think that OGd cannot teach anything buit darkness as the wathctower says with the watchtower ? Is the Bible really insufficient to teach the Truch which is Christ? wow ok Jehovah cant teach in His bible but your men can save you?

No . No way.

Mior error ofn grebers involvement , my only mistake ... I can't continue to memorise the decievings of your cult. I would rather memorise CHrist my hope for glory.

HE WHO HAS THE SON HAS

THE FATHER.

THE witnesses are apostate!

fact!

HAve you even noticed this is about CHRISTians and CHRIST< not men in the brooklyn hieghts NY ! sheesh!

[elkieDannsa' Air An Drochaid]

those killed for not getting political cards in one country , while others bought illegal false cards from people in another, get with it ,see waht the org does worldswide, it is not unified!

They are not liked because of their political oppositions ,not for Christ! and certainly not for Jehovah!

I know all about family dying for no blood, did you know they used ot forbid even immunizations, what about those died for that? thatis not for Jehovah, you say HIs name likea charm ! superstitionallly.

It is Christ alone whom youMUST be saved in.

[elkieDannsa' Air An Drochaid]

Before the mid-1800s, there was no such organization as "Jehovah's Witnesses." It was commenced by a haberdasher out of Allegheny, Pennsylvania by name of Charles Taze Russell. In fact, it should always be referred to as "Jehovah's FALSE Witnesses" (JFWs for short) in that it vehemently denies the essential Deity of the Lord Jesus Christ. They teach that Jesus Christ is but "a god," not the Almighty God. So an excellent question to ask them is: Do you believe Jesus Christ was a true God or a false God? If they answer TRUE, then they have TWO true Gods (1) Jehovah and (2) Jesus Christ, which they will strenuously deny. But if they answer FALSE, then they teach that Jehovah God gave rise to a FALSE "a god", which they will again strenuously deny. However, they can't have it BOTH ways! Jesus Christ HAS TO BE one or the other!! No two ways about it.

Then, too, I understand that Charles Taze Russell had serious marital problems and died divorced from his wife! Very interesting indeed. The Apostle Paul makes it abundantly clear in 1 Timothy 3: 4,5 that if a man cannot rule in his own home re his wife & offspring, he is not prepared to rule in any way as a leader in the house of God. All of which casts divine disapproval on one, Charles Taze Russell, founder of the "Watchtower" religion. You'll render them kinda speechless every time on this one! As soon as the "Watchtower" folk are prepared to publicly excommunicate their founder, CTR, then we'll engage in discussion with them.

Finally, their plan of salvation is a plan of damnation. In all things, let Jehovah-Jesus be praised!

http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com

AMEN!!!

This deserves again!

[Guest NewPilgrim]

Timbo, as a JW, I wonder if you could address these two passages for me please, taken from the NWT. Could you offer me an explanation as to whom each passage refers to:

John 1:1 In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. 2 This one was in [the] beginning with God. 3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence....

John 1:14 So the Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father; and he was full of undeserved kindness and truth.

Gen 15:1 After these things the word of Jehovah came to A

[ted]

Amen, Elkie!

t.