What was Judas' motivation?

[David from New Bern]

The Scripture lets us in on the fact that Judas was chosen with the full awareness that he would betray Jesus. The narrative also tells us that he was stealing from the treasury that he was the keeper of for the collective group. It is believed by some historians he was a zealot of the violent variety looking to put a dagger in the back of a Roman official if given an opportunity. He shows regret after betraying Christ and committs suicide. What was his motivation for the betrayal or was he simply overtaken by Satan and became a tool in te evil plot known in advance by the Lord?

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

JESUS did say that HE chose the 12 and one of them was a devil(John6:70)

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings,

I have often wondered about Judas. He doesn't seem to be a very savory character. His suicide would appear to indicate he regreted his act. We have to keep the following in mind as well:

Psalms 109:6-9 Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand. 7 When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin. 8 Let his days be few; and let another take his office. 9 Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.

Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

then we have another verse:

Luke 22:3 Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.

So we also see:

Matthew 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Luke 22:31-32 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: 32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

Well, we know from Job that Satan must get permission in order to do anything. So the question is: "Did God give Satan permission to enter into Judas, so that he would be the instrument by which Jesus was betrayed"? I believe that is the answer.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[David from New Bern]

Greetings,

I have often wondered about Judas. He doesn't seem to be a very savory character. His suicide would appear to indicate he regreted his act. We have to keep the following in mind as well:

Psalms 109:6-9 Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand. 7 When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin. 8 Let his days be few; and let another take his office. 9 Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.

Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

then we have another verse:

Luke 22:3 Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.

So we also see:

Matthew 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Luke 22:31-32 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: 32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

Well, we know from Job that Satan must get permission in order to do anything. So the question is: "Did God give Satan permission to enter into Judas, so that he would be the instrument by which Jesus was betrayed"? I believe that is the answer.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

Honest question...Was his total purpose in living to be the instrument through which Jesus would be betrayed? He was only there among the 12 to be "it"?

[suzanagimpel]

Judas wanted to be with Jesus because He tought Jesus would restore the kingdom from the Romans back to Israel.

When Jesus begin to say the he was going to die and come rise on the 3rd day. Judas that was there just for the position when Jesus would become a king become very frustade. He begins to complain about the money the alabaster balm could be sold. He was taking money from the purse where the apostels put all they had to fallow Jesus. But once Jesus become king than he would make even more. When Jesus said that the balm was to prepaire for his buriel. Judas trough the towel and said to himself. Ok this guy will not become king, I have never seen somebody predict his own ressurection. The only one who could would be himself but he will died. SO he did not understand who Jesus was. And even if he ressurect from the dead he tought that the humilation that he suffered as he said he would would let almost 0 chances of him ever becoming king,

So he made the last profit that he could make. He spended already 3 years of his life fallowing this man for nothing so he sold Jesus.

This is my theory.

Suzana

[wouldhe]

It was simply supposed to happen.

[Keith]

I honestly think that if it were important, the Bible would have given us insight, or just told us, what Judas' motivation was. The world likes to speculate and 'what if' things to death.

[David from New Bern]

I honestly think that if it were important, the Bible would have given us insight, or just told us, what Judas' motivation was. The world likes to speculate and 'what if' things to death.

Why is everyone shying away from this verse:

Then Satan entered Judas, surnamed Iscariot, who was numbered among the twelve.Luke 22:3 NKJV

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

Then Satan entered Judas, surnamed Iscariot, who was numbered among the twelve.Luke 22:3 NKJV

What's the problem with it?

Lu

[Keith]

Why is everyone shying away from this verse:

Then Satan entered Judas, surnamed Iscariot, who was numbered among the twelve.Luke 22:3 NKJV

I'm definitely not shying away from it. It's what the Bible says and I believe it. I realize I wasn't very clear in my remarks though. I mistook the thread as meaning it was coming from the line of thinking of the new "Gospel of Judas." As Dave clearly pointed out, Judas had problems, to say the least.