i need help with this problem

[carant2000_2001]

hi everyone,

i have a problem and need advice from anyone who can give it right now.

let me start at the begining my children and i attend church,great right.

well heres the problem we take neighbor kids along as many as my car allows

and have been doing that for a long time. we've had argument between children

but they always seem to work themselves out. the last year a little girl and her

sister have been riding to church with us. i have trouble with the 5 year old

she is very bossy, she doesn't mind so for awhile i wouldnt let her come

i felt so bad because her sister came, i wouldnt take the little one because she

is so mean to the other kids. forgot to mention they also go to scouts with us.

this little girl runs around will not listen to anyone. we took her out to eat at

a fast food resturant my daughter came to the counter to help carry things back

to the table, in that few minutes she had came to help me carry the food, she emptied

out a salt shaker on the table not much in it but still. i feel terrible for saying you cant go to church with us. someone please help. their is no help at her home believe me i've tried

they tell my daughter she only a baby.

in Christ,

carolyn

[Shelak]

hi everyone,

i have a problem and need advice from anyone who can give it right now.

let me start at the begining my children and i attend church,great right.

well heres the problem we take neighbor kids along as many as my car allows

and have been doing that for a long time. we've had argument between children

but they always seem to work themselves out. the last year a little girl and her

sister have been riding to church with us. i have trouble with the 5 year old

she is very bossy, she doesn't mind so for awhile i wouldnt let her come

i felt so bad because her sister came, i wouldnt take the little one because she

is so mean to the other kids. forgot to mention they also go to scouts with us.

this little girl runs around will not listen to anyone. we took her out to eat at

a fast food resturant my daughter came to the counter to help carry things back

to the table, in that few minutes she had came to help me carry the food, she emptied

out a salt shaker on the table not much in it but still. i feel terrible for saying you cant go to church with us. someone please help. their is no help at her home believe me i've tried

they tell my daughter she only a baby.

in Christ,

carolyn

I think I would excuse myself from taking BOTH kids anywhere with me. This is a sticky problem. Jesus said ....."Suffer the children to come unto me, for of such is the kingdom of Heaven." It seems like a soul is at stake, I believe you are going to have to "suffer" through this, since you have already started it. She will mature and stop acting up Im sure.

Good job tho Hang in there!

Shelak

[shepherdsgrace]

Everyone is different. But I would never take children with me that would not obey me. There is too much at stake. And although it is a shame to have to consider it there is the fact that you are liable and the parents can sue if anything should happen to their child. So my answer is pray and receive wisdom from the LORD what you should do. Do not be afraid to say no. It is never right to allow one child to ruin all the pleasure of the rest. People say that you are reaching out for Christ. That may be true. It is also true that all of the rest of the children are involved also. So. You need wisdom from the HOLY SPIRIT. Rethink your goals and why you are doing this. What is the result so far? Seek the LORD.

[Leonard]

A child who remains uncorrected WILL NOT 'outgrow' such disobedience. That's what grown-ups are for...... It seems a suitable restriction to me. I wouldn't take her anywhere until she decides she want to behave well.

[CellShade]

Dunno I am in the fence here, but I think Shelak may be right.

The kid need's God. Think of it, she still doesn't have the complete understanding of good and wrong, and maybe constantly telling her '' do not do this or do not do that'' while will take time, it will work out as God will see your heart and hers.

[Brandli5]

One thing is for sure, God sent you to them to help them.

I think I would talk to there mother, or father. Whom ever is there at there home. I would discuss this with them, and ask if you can take matters into your own hands, or if they can talk to them.

Tell the parent you really do want to take them to church with you and give them a break during those hours. If the parent gets upset, which I do not see happening since it is a babysitting job to them (I would think) just back out nicely.

If the parent understands and says they will ask the child to calm down, then that would be great.

While your there, ask the parents to join you sometime, to see how they like the church.

Can't hurt.

God will let this work out, pray about it.

God is awesome.

[bacat852]

Hi Carolyn: Love and prayer is what this little girl needs. As other brother's and sisters have shared you were placed in this little girls path for that reason. I will be praying for you to have wisdom. In years past in teaching sunday school and working with children from various backgrounds the Holy Spirit is the one that will draw and change the childs heart. Don't give up just keep trusting the Lord for the answer.

God bless, I am praying Bettyann

[carant2000_2001]

thank you all for your prayers, these children really need to be in church

that why i have such a problem telling them no. today we did a community

service project with scouts, i took these girls along with us. we put bags out for the

homeless & needy for personal items to be collected next week at the same time,

they we're so good. praise the Lord maybe its sinking in. tomorrow they are going to

church with us. we'll try again. thank the Lord for such a beautiful day

in Christ,

carolyn