Did Jesus Go To Hell?

[gypc]

I have a question for the JDS beleivers...........Was/is the Blood of Jesus enough to atone for our sins?

[Isaiah-smiles]

I agree entirely.....1). How can God die spiritually should be the question....Jesus was the Word become flesh.......He was not a creation...He was THE Creator in the flesh. Never was there ever a time that Jesus wasnt......He is God......That is what seperates Chrisitianity exclusively from ALL other beliefs....There is not one other single belief that follows the Truth that Jesus is God...He and the father are ONE.

You receive Jesus you are receiving the father also...You deny Jesus, you are also denying the fathers testimony about his only begotten son....

If Jesus isnt God, then why are we to seek Gods forgiveness through Christ.....? What value does that forgiveness have in its power to forgive if we arent going directly to the one we have sinned AGAINST......?? if Jesus isnt God then surely we are seeking forgiveness from someone who is merely an imposter. Why would we do that.....? You can only be forgiven by the one whom you have offended.

Regards,

Ben.

1). What is death? Is it soul sleeping, or non-existence or are you existing somewhere else, away from time and space??

~Jesus IS God, but why can't you grasp the truth that just as a person who have rejected Christ will be SEPARATED from God for all eternalty, likewise, Christ had to suffer a temporary separation from God the Father on behalf of those who belongs to God (through repentance and faith). Why else did Christ, as He suffered on the cross cry; "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matt. 27:46)

[Isaiah-smiles]

He took my place and your place in the pit of hell. If not... then he did not actually become my sacrifice and your sacrifice.

I disagree, He wasn't in the "pit" of hell, but rather, in Abraham's Bossom (the side of hades where the Old Testament saints dwelled awaiting the promise of God). The point of time in which Jesus suffered spiritual separation (or death) was while He was on the cross, where He cried; "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matt. 27:46). The burden of our sin was upon Him on the cross and the wrath of God upon His Son (because of our sins) was also upon the cross whereby christ said "it is finished". What was finish?? The payment of our eniquities! The thief on the cross to whom Christ said "this day, thou shalt be with me in paradise", Christ, later that day, met the thief in Abraham's Bossom (or paradise), not the pit of hell (the place called "torments"), both places were located in Hades. The purpose of the ressurection is the final phase of our redemption, the glorification of the saints; "For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. 23. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. 24For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? 25. But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it." (Rom. 8:22-25)

Edited June 2, 2006 by Isaiah-smiles

[Rukkus]

This sounds like another Copeland and Hagin false doctrine. So are you saying he died spiritually?

In his love,

Brian

Well, I think we get into trouble when we start looking at biblical subjects from the point of view of someone's "doctrine" because we begin associating it with a person or movement, rather than just looking to see if it's in the Bible or not. I'm not interested in Copeland's or Hagin's doctrines. I'm interested in whether I can read it for myself in my own Bible. As far as Jesus dying spiritually . . . Since this phrase "spiritually dead" does not occur in the Bible, you would have to first define it before I could answer.

[Rukkus]

Luke 16 still has nothing to do with what you claim!

nothing in Acts,2;31, says anything about Jesus going to hell/hades-etc;

Acta 2:31 doesn't say anything about Jesus going to hell? Hmmm . . . We must be reading different Bibles.

Thanks for the comments, anyway

[Isaiah-smiles]

This sounds like another Copeland and Hagin false doctrine. So are you saying he died spiritually?

In his love,

Brian

Well, I think we get into trouble when we start looking at biblical subjects from the point of view of someone's "doctrine" because we begin associating it with a person or movement, rather than just looking to see if it's in the Bible or not. I'm not interested in Copeland's or Hagin's doctrines. I'm interested in whether I can read it for myself in my own Bible. As far as Jesus dying spiritually . . . Since this phrase "spiritually dead" does not occur in the Bible, you would have to first define it before I could answer.

Death is not an annialation. No matter how much the body decays and breaks down, There will always be elements of that body whether it be ashes or dust. The Bible also teaches the principal of the soul continuing on, whether it is Heaven or Hell. So, keeping this in mind, the body and soul are separated at death. To me, this is actually the definition of death (separation).

The body has life because the soul is in the body. When the soul is "disconnected" to the body we are physically dead and when we are born sinners our spirit is "disconnected" to God's Holy Spirit we are "spiritually dead". Hope this helped.

[Isaiah-smiles]

Luke 16 still has nothing to do with what you claim!

nothing in Acts,2;31, says anything about Jesus going to hell/hades-etc;

Acta 2:31 doesn't say anything about Jesus going to hell? Hmmm . . . We must be reading different Bibles. Thanks for the comments, anyway

I personally prefer the (KJV) over all the other English translations. "Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope: Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption (diaphthora, [dee-af-thor-ah

[cag7800]

the only reason Jesus went to the burning side of Hell was to kick the door down and take the keys of hell from Satan

[K.Yen]

I think we have beat this subject to death around here. Jesus did not go to the place of the damned (Hell). That is actually a heresy. He went to the Paradise side of Sheol-Hades. Remember, He told the thief on the cross that they would be together "today" in Paradise. Anyway, check the other threads for the discussion.

Funny

Edited June 15, 2006 by K.Yen

[EricH]

I think we have beat this subject to death around here. Jesus did not go to the place of the damned (Hell). That is actually a heresy. He went to the Paradise side of Sheol-Hades. Remember, He told the thief on the cross that they would be together "today" in Paradise. Anyway, check the other threads for the discussion.

Funny