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^ This is strange. I've met people who've said that people once they're saved cannot be possessed by any kind of evil/unclean spirit whatsoever because as soon as they're saved, the Holy Spirit comes to dwell within them and He cannot abide sharing His temple (that person's body) with any unclean spirits. Besides they wouldn't want to stay anyway. I could see it happening that they'd go and then come back if the person backslides, is that what you meant then? It's interesting is all...

That is what most Christians believe. What we don't take into consideration is man is a three part being...

1.) spirit-which the Holy Spirit comes and reside in when we accept Jesus as Lord. The Holy Spirit then leads us in our sanctification process. Which is a process of elimination, get rid of the occupiers.

2.) mind will and emotions-this is what they manipulate and cause to manifest their kingdom.

3.) body-when the person quits/refuses to move forward in their sanctification they will be opening doors for the spirits of infirmity. These will take a believer to an early death.

Right now we are in a purging process..

In doing deliverance I have ministered to Spirit filled Christians and cast out a dozen or more at any given time. Any manifestation (action, thought) that does not represent the Kingdom of Jesus is manifesting the other.. Simple, it is still choice. We are to take captive every thought to the knowledge of Christ.. That is not a suggestion.

The door points for demons are #1 SIN. unrepented sin will keep them. #2 Unforgiveness.. tormenting demons come in. #3 generational #4 traumas (all the way from childhood) #5 offenses... there is more. Just having made a one time confession of faith does not complete the job. It is a process.. for life.

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Karen, I'm curious and must ask if you know a guy by the name Ken Stone?

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Karen, I'm curious and must ask if you know a guy by the name Ken Stone?

No I haven't heard of him. Is he involved in deliverance ministry??

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^ This is strange. I've met people who've said that people once they're saved cannot be possessed by any kind of evil/unclean spirit whatsoever because as soon as they're saved, the Holy Spirit comes to dwell within them and He cannot abide sharing His temple (that person's body) with any unclean spirits. Besides they wouldn't want to stay anyway. I could see it happening that they'd go and then come back if the person backslides, is that what you meant then? It's interesting is all...

That is what most Christians believe. What we don't take into consideration is man is a three part being...

1.) spirit-which the Holy Spirit comes and reside in when we accept Jesus as Lord. The Holy Spirit then leads us in our sanctification process. Which is a process of elimination, get rid of the occupiers.

2.) mind will and emotions-this is what they manipulate and cause to manifest their kingdom.

3.) body-when the person quits/refuses to move forward in their sanctification they will be opening doors for the spirits of infirmity. These will take a believer to an early death.

Right now we are in a purging process..

In doing deliverance I have ministered to Spirit filled Christians and cast out a dozen or more at any given time. Any manifestation (action, thought) that does not represent the Kingdom of Jesus is manifesting the other.. Simple, it is still choice. We are to take captive every thought to the knowledge of Christ.. That is not a suggestion.

The door points for demons are #1 SIN. unrepented sin will keep them. #2 Unforgiveness.. tormenting demons come in. #3 generational #4 traumas (all the way from childhood) #5 offenses... there is more. Just having made a one time confession of faith does not complete the job. It is a process.. for life.

Yep! I can attest to that! :thumbsup:

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One of the biggest lies in the Christian community is that we are no longer targets of satan and his demons. CONTRARY to Christian opinion...we have a BULLS EYE on our backs. For one, because we are always retreating and giving him ground. If the devil can neutralize or compromise Christians it keeps us from fulfilling the Great Commission... Sick and sidelined Christians don't do very much witnessing..

If the devil can get us to believe that ALL the sickness and disease is part of the curse and we have no power to change it, we have given up territory. For one, 70% of ALL dis-ease has a spititual root. Boy that hurts doesn't it. Stress and fear are doors for demons to bring sickness and dis-EASE. What am I saying??? We as the Church have refused to line up with the WHOLE COUNCIL of God and walk in divine health -vs- needing healing... Failure to take responsibility is why so many are sick and dying early. Remember I am only addressing the 70% that have stress related disease.. We go to Dr to get a RX that will overthrow what our body is manifesting. Just like a drug addict in most cases, we are medicating a symptom of a deeper rooted problem.. ouch that hurts.. The Lord revealed that to me when I was sick and going through the healing prayer lines and not getting well. The Lord revealed to me I had some stuff that I hadn't taking care of that gave the enemy a right to make me sick. Let me tell you after I addressed these issues with repentance and correction, I WAS HEALED> No one had to lay hands on me. I was delivered... That is what is needed in the Church today..

The Word says we should work out our salvation with fear and trembling. That means daily taking the time for self examination for sin and things creeping in our lives that take the place of the Lord.... little foxes. I cannot tell you how it grieves me to see those who present themselves in prayer lines to be healed and return to their seats still sick because no one has the Godly fear to tell them the truth. Tell them to ask the Holy Spirit to search their hearts for anything that may be hindering their healing... Can you imagine if people began to repent and forgive, and restore relationships, make restitution.... etc.. the healing that would flow????:emot-handshake:

Blessings, Karen

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One of the biggest lies in the Christian community is that we are no longer targets of satan and his demons. CONTRARY to Christian opinion...we have a BULLS EYE on our backs. For one, because we are always retreating and giving him ground. If the devil can neutralize or compromise Christians it keeps us from fulfilling the Great Commission... Sick and sidelined Christians don't do very much witnessing..

If the devil can get us to believe that ALL the sickness and disease is part of the curse and we have no power to change it, we have given up territory. For one, 70% of ALL dis-ease has a spititual root. Boy that hurts doesn't it. Stress and fear are doors for demons to bring sickness and dis-EASE. What am I saying??? We as the Church have refused to line up with the WHOLE COUNCIL of God and walk in divine health -vs- needing healing... Failure to take responsibility is why so many are sick and dying early. Remember I am only addressing the 70% that have stress related disease.. We go to Dr to get a RX that will overthrow what our body is manifesting. Just like a drug addict in most cases, we are medicating a symptom of a deeper rooted problem.. ouch that hurts.. The Lord revealed that to me when I was sick and going through the healing prayer lines and not getting well. The Lord revealed to me I had some stuff that I hadn't taking care of that gave the enemy a right to make me sick. Let me tell you after I addressed these issues with repentance and correction, I WAS HEALED> No one had to lay hands on me. I was delivered... That is what is needed in the Church today..

The Word says we should work out our salvation with fear and trembling. That means daily taking the time for self examination for sin and things creeping in our lives that take the place of the Lord.... little foxes. I cannot tell you how it grieves me to see those who present themselves in prayer lines to be healed and return to their seats still sick because no one has the Godly fear to tell them the truth. Tell them to ask the Holy Spirit to search their hearts for anything that may be hindering their healing... Can you imagine if people began to repent and forgive, and restore relationships, make restitution.... etc.. the healing that would flow????:24:

Blessings, Karen

Whoo hooooooo!! :emot-handshake:

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No I haven't heard of him. Is he involved in deliverance ministry??

Yes he's a close friend of mine that works in this type of ministry and what he shares about Christians who don't take it into account that by choice we can allow these unclean spirits to attach themselves to us without us even realizing it. His work sounds similar to what you've described and he works together with others in nearby states. I was just curious if this type of deliverance ministry had ever brought you across paths with him. :emot-questioned:

I fully agree with this message which he even brought across to our church congregation and which yourself are sharing here.

Something you've stated that we as Christians should take into account daily.

The Word says we should work out our salvation with fear and trembling. That means daily taking the time for self examination for sin and things creeping in our lives that take the place of the Lord.... little foxes.

Amen, not only did Christ enter this world to die in our place for sin but praise God he left everything we need to confront and gain victory over temptation, and these unclean spirits which bring the temptations before us. We have his Word, the Holy Spirit, prayer and the power which resides in the name of Jesus alone. But Christ does expect us to exercise what he left for us. It glorifies him when we choose to use it but as always its by choice if we don't take advantage of and use what he has provided for us while here on earth. :thumbsup:

When you closely examine what Jesus has done and why.....then look at areas where the Church lacks in getting this message across, you can't help but wonder about all the blessings that are being missed. :emot-questioned:

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^ This is strange. I've met people who've said that people once they're saved cannot be possessed by any kind of evil/unclean spirit whatsoever because as soon as they're saved, the Holy Spirit comes to dwell within them and He cannot abide sharing His temple (that person's body) with any unclean spirits. Besides they wouldn't want to stay anyway. I could see it happening that they'd go and then come back if the person backslides, is that what you meant then? It's interesting is all...

That is what most Christians believe. What we don't take into consideration is man is a three part being...

1.) spirit-which the Holy Spirit comes and reside in when we accept Jesus as Lord. The Holy Spirit then leads us in our sanctification process. Which is a process of elimination, get rid of the occupiers.

2.) mind will and emotions-this is what they manipulate and cause to manifest their kingdom.

3.) body-when the person quits/refuses to move forward in their sanctification they will be opening doors for the spirits of infirmity. These will take a believer to an early death.

Right now we are in a purging process..

In doing deliverance I have ministered to Spirit filled Christians and cast out a dozen or more at any given time. Any manifestation (action, thought) that does not represent the Kingdom of Jesus is manifesting the other.. Simple, it is still choice. We are to take captive every thought to the knowledge of Christ.. That is not a suggestion.

The door points for demons are #1 SIN. unrepented sin will keep them. #2 Unforgiveness.. tormenting demons come in. #3 generational #4 traumas (all the way from childhood) #5 offenses... there is more. Just having made a one time confession of faith does not complete the job. It is a process.. for life.

What I've read in only a few years has led me to believe that it is easy in fact for a spirit to take over, influence or even cause illness in a person on the basis of a sin alone. But what I've been told by other people who said they were Christians is that a person who is saved cannot have these things happen to him any longer, so now I"m surprised that you say that people can still have these problems. It does make sense though, since the purging couldnt happen all at once if the person isnt even aware of what sins in his life have brought the illness and other issues upon him. I mean, it would also be fair to accept your logic because I've also read or been told that Jesus also doesn't expect or necessarily like to have believers always asking Him to deliver them of these problems when His death and resurrection and their belief in Him has given them the authority to cast those demons out themselves....so, it would then make enough sense to follow your argument in saying that deliverance can be a process. I appreciate that one more.

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I see very little scriptural evidence for any of this.

Faith alone is what saves us. Paul, died an early death was beset by a physical problem, Peter died an early death, Christ was executed, John the Baptist was beheaded, and we look for comfort and good health as some sort of payment for our faith?

Any doctrine which preaches that those who have faith are paid in this life with good health, money or good fortune is false; our faith is not some sort of deal we make with Christ for earthly rewards. We are pilgrims on this earth, as Paul says to live is Christ and to die is gain, this is not our true home we are never promised temporal benefits, we are promised gold that does not rust or fade away, an eternal promise not a temporal one.

Does sin cause sickness? Yes sin has ruined our life here and is the root cause of all sickness and death. Can prayer heal? Yes obviously if that is the will of God. Should we fear demons? No, they have no power over us; they are cowardly slimy little things that shrink from true faith and the light of Christ. They will tempt us, and they will tempt our faith no doubt and we should be aware of them, but if we have faith we have nothing to fear. But indeed if we look for them we can find them.

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No I haven't heard of him. Is he involved in deliverance ministry??

Yes he's a close friend of mine that works in this type of ministry and what he shares about Christians who don't take it into account that by choice we can allow these unclean spirits to attach themselves to us without us even realizing it. His work sounds similar to what you've described and he works together with others in nearby states. I was just curious if this type of deliverance ministry had ever brought you across paths with him. :whistling:

I fully agree with this message which he even brought across to our church congregation and which yourself are sharing here.

Something you've stated that we as Christians should take into account daily.

The Word says we should work out our salvation with fear and trembling. That means daily taking the time for self examination for sin and things creeping in our lives that take the place of the Lord.... little foxes.

Amen, not only did Christ enter this world to die in our place for sin but praise God he left everything we need to confront and gain victory over temptation, and these unclean spirits which bring the temptations before us. We have his Word, the Holy Spirit, prayer and the power which resides in the name of Jesus alone. But Christ does expect us to exercise what he left for us. It glorifies him when we choose to use it but as always its by choice if we don't take advantage of and use what he has provided for us while here on earth. :24:

When you closely examine what Jesus has done and why.....then look at areas where the Church lacks in getting this message across, you can't help but wonder about all the blessings that are being missed. :24:

AMEN~the truth bears witness to our Spirit! The Lord revealed it to me after I had got sick and the Dr only could offer disease management.. AG As a denomination we believe in healing. But I have seen very little of it :24: So when I found myself searching for the reason why we wasn't walking in heath, the best anyone had to offer was, "I guess we will have to ask Him when we get there". That wasn't good enough.. I was delivered from demons in jail and as I progressed in my walk with the Lord I had been healed of many physical ailments. Like stomach ulcers, kidney failure, asthma... etc.

So I proceeded to pray and ask the Lord... The scripture the Lord had told me was Isaiah 58.. It wasn't that He couldn't heal anymore but we junk in the way and He would not go against His Word.. WOW.. woke me up, I had some issues to deal with. After I repented of some un submitted offenses and unforgivenss I was healed of my sickness... Imagine that?!?!? ..Then to confirm what the Lord had revealed to me turned on the angel channel and there was the Sid Roth program and his guest was Pastor Henry Wright. It was on disease and healing. Everything including the same scripture the Lord had given me, he was sharing. The ministry he does in Georgia is seeing results for all the disease that the medical community are clueless about...

Check out the book "a more excellent way". Pleasant Valley Church..

http://www.beinhealth.com/

I guess the Lord is raising a standard in these last days... time is short.. AMEN!!!!

Blessings to you..

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